Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Putting a Number on the Tar Sands


The US Conference of Mayors annual meeting came up with a great idea - tracking the "life cycle impact" of various fossil fuels. They also passed a resolution urging member municipalities to stop using unconventional fuels with lage carbon footprints. The resolution specifically referenced Canada's Tar Sands:

"The production of tarsands oil from Canada emits approximately three times the carbon dioxide pollution per barrel as does conventional oil production and significantly damages Canada's Boreal forest ecosystem - the world's largest carbon storehouse."

You see, once you factor in the carbon footprint of various fossil fuels - assign a number to them - it's an easy process to translate that into any of several forms of carbon tariffs.

Alberta's Tar Sands have always benefitted from the "out of sight/out of mind" syndrome. They're way up north where few Albertans live. People don't have to see them if they don't want to. That, I suspect, is a key reason why Big Oil and the Alberta government have been able to get away with the environmental destruction the Tar Sands necessitate. Whenever someone does complain they're rebuffed with the same old assurances about new technologies being just around the corner, an excuse that's then put back in the bottom drawer until the next time it's needed.

A carbon tariff by end user markets might give Big Oil and the Alberta government the big, swift kick in the ass they've needed to actually make those promised new technologies a reality. You simply make it more expensive for them not to clean themselves up. They say they can do it. It's time they did.

Kudos to the US Conference of Mayors. They just might have pointed to the right path to curbing tar sands pollution.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

I suggest that you teach them a lesson and stop using their product. No seriously just quit using their product all together. That will show them.

LeDaro said...

I heard about the story yesterday on CNN. Good for these mayors. Tar Sands is a mess and literally a black spot on Canada and environment.

The Mound of Sound said...

Nice try, Anon 11:52, except that you forget that the tar sands production is targeted to the American market. It's not a facile matter of not using gasoline, it's the very legitimate point of forcing these operators to act responsibly and bring in pollution controls - just what they've been promising to do, over and over, for years. Or do you think that's a bad idea?

Dante said...

Looking at life cycle emissions, oil sands emit 10% more C02 than Arab Oil. Carbon sequestration will likely bring it to a lower level than Arab Oil.
This issue has nothing at all to do with "pollution" levels. It has to do with going after a boogey man.

The Mound of Sound said...

It's one thing to claim that, Dante, quite another to back it up. Give us a reference to show this. And please tell us just how well carbon sequestration is going? The Americans have just scrapped their major demonstration project. When do you foresee carbon sequestration coming online in Athabasca? Which one of the oil giants up there is currently constructing such a facility or will be next year or the year after that? And what, pray tell, is going on with land reclamation and those lovely tailing lakes?

But let's just begin with your 10%"life cycle emissions" claim. Surely something as terrific as that would have been howled to the rafters by Big Oil - if there was anything to it. Special Ed hisself would be making the rounds proclaiming just how wonderfully clean Athabasca's tar sands oil truly is. Except Big Oil isn't making that claim, neither is Stelmach. Only you, Dante, only you.

Anonymous said...

No I am quite serious about you not using their product. If all of the people in the world who claim they care about the environment stopped using oil then the price would fall to less than $40-$50 per barrel. Below that price the tar sands are not profitable. So I say it again if you are serious about saving the planet stop using their product.

The Mound of Sound said...

Anon, I don't believe for a second that you're serious, that is assuming you're sane. As you well know, our society's dependence on fossil fuels is absolute. We've built our entire way of life around it.

Like any addict, you don't go cold turkey on this problem. That'll kill you. Instead you gradually wean yourself off. That might entail cutting consumption initially, perhaps shifting to clean sources of energy as they come online and, in the meantime, putting the screws to those assholes who are generating the environmental disaster we call the tar sands until they finally, after year upon year of promises, shovel a bit of their considerable profits into cleaning up their operations. By that I mean not only GHG but the associated air, soil and water pollution. That's where we need to get serious, Anon. That's what those who really care about the environment understand is the most effective and entirely necessary way of going about tackling the problems.

David Wozney said...

Re: “... emits approximately three times the carbon dioxide pollution ...

Carbon dioxide emissions are not pollution. Carbon dioxide released by man near ground level is heavier than air and sinks in air relatively quickly rather than rising up to the upper atmosphere to become a so-called greenhouse gas in the upper atmosphere. While sinking, it stratifies from air; after sinking and stratifying, it tends to remain close to the ground. The carbon dioxide can then dissolve in soil water or alternatively it may find its way down to low-lying water bodies or down to ocean level where it can readily mix and dissolve in water or react with water to form weak carbonic acid. Carbon dioxide is also removed immediately from the lower atmosphere by rainfall.

In the nineteenth and twentieth centuries A.D., many measurements of the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide were higher than present-day carbon dioxide measurements and there was no runaway greenhouse-gas global warming effect.

The Mound of Sound said...

David, every now and then when someone posts a ludicrous statement I like to see what they've posted on their own blog. I checked yours out. You dispute the existance of dinosaurs and leave instructions for those of us who will be left behind after you're swept up in The Rapture, and proclaim that the Appolo moon missions were a hoax. You go on at some length about how, since 1867, the British North America Act has stipulated that authority over Canada be vested in the "Queen." So were the Kings mere interlopers?

You're a nutjob Davey, a complete and utter loon. P.S. The Rapture is now scheduled for 8 a.m. tomorrow on the centre lane of the 401 but only the blindfolded will be accepted. Good luck pal.

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