Tuesday, October 11, 2016

Ah, Jeebus! Did You Hear the One About Turkey and Iraq?


What a mess. Who will Canada side with on the looming battle to oust ISIS from Mosul? Will it be Iraq? Mosul, after all, is Iraqi. Or will it be our NATO ally, Turkey? What if Iraq and Turkey get into a shooting war just in case the war against ISIS isn't already murky enough? Here's the skinny from Foreign Policy:

Just weeks before Iraqi troops are to begin their push to retake the Islamic State-held city of Mosul, an unexpected wrinkle has appeared: Turkey wants in on the fight, and refuses to pull its troops out of Iraq despite Iraqi threats that Ankara’s refusal could lead to war.

Responding to Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi’s call last week for Turkey to pull its 2,000 troops and two dozen tanks out of their base near Mosul, President Tayyip Recep Erdogan shot back Tuesday that Abadi should “know his limits” since “the Turkish army has not lost so much standing as to take orders from you.”

“We will approach the operation in Iraq, the operation that will be in Mosul soon, with the same attitude,” as aggressive cross-border operations in northern Syria, Erdogan said Tuesday. “Turkey cannot intervene against the threats right next to it? We don’t need permission for this, and we don’t plan on getting it.”

Turkey is concerned that once ISIS is pushed out of Mosul, the Shiite-led government in Baghdad will make it difficult for Sunni residents of the city to return, while Kurds will dominate the surrounding areas. (Kurdish forces have grabbed control over the contested city of Kirkuk thanks to the onslaught of the Islamic State.) Ankara is leery of Kurdish fighters, even though it maintains cordial relations with Iraqi Kurdistan, given its decades-long battle with Kurdish terrorist group PKK.

With about half of Turkish generals in jail or ousted, an ongoing Kurdish insurgency in its south, and deployments in Iraq and northern Syria, the Turkish military is “overstretched, but the government is trying to project power in the region and domestically,” said Gonul Tol, director of The Middle East Institute’s Center for Turkish Studies. “It wants to rebuild the image of the military,” and sticking it out in Iraq would be a big part of that.

Another reason the Turks feel the need to stay is to continue training Sunni tribal fighters to take on both ISIS and after that, likely, Iranian-backed Shiite militias. The idea is to find fighters other than Kurdish peshmerga to take the war to terrorists and other militants; too much Kurdish success, especially in northern Syria, has worried Ankara.

Iraq’s parliament responded by requesting a U.N. Security Council session to condemn the Turkish move, calling it a “blatant violation” of Iraqi sovereignty. Abadi followed that up by insisting that the Turkish presence in Iraq — which he originally negotiated in December 2014, months after Mosul fell to ISIS in the first place — had “no justification.”

Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim immediately shot back at Abadi, vowing to stay “no matter what Baghdad says.”

Turkey wants to make sure that as the Islamic State is rolled back, Kurdish forces don’t fill up the vacuum. It launched an operation in August to push Kurdish fighters to the east bank of the Euphrates in northern Syria.

If the Turks are really after laying the groundwork for another Sunni/Shiite, Arab/Kurd shitstorm what in hell is Canada doing in that ethnic/sectarian nut house? You get dragged into this, who do you support and who do you fight. Better yet, how do you get out when this goes south?

8 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://www.atimes.com/article/turks-uneasy-islamized-schools-wake-foiled-coup/

All is not well in Turkey.
I think the electorate as has happened in many countries) is seeing the myth exposed!
WOW ; do we ever live in an age of misinformation.
The Turks are about to see the influence of a less than honest media.
https://off-guardian.org/category/media-watch/

The West has swallowed the Syria lie ; Turkey swallowed the Erdogan lie.


TB

The Mound of Sound said...

You're right, TB. All is far from well inside Turkey. Americans who have any doubt about what a President Trump might be like need a quick study of Erdogan and Orban.

Anonymous said...

Mound ; have you ever considered the thought of a President Ted Cruz?

TB

The Mound of Sound said...

TB, there was a time I did that. Fortunately I've managed to purge that out of my immediate awareness.

Anonymous said...

Oct 12/2016, The Guardian pulled an article about John Kerry having changed his mind about peace talks with Russia!
What the heck is happening?

TB

Anonymous said...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-13/kerry-and-lavrov-to-resume-talks-on-syria-despite-war-crimes-row/7927902

This is all I can find on the matter.
Strange it is not more of a headline!
Perhaps some do not wish to give peace a chance?

TB

Anonymous said...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/12/unexpected-talks-syria-moscow-switzerland-us-russia-airstrikes-aleppo

Sorry no conspiracy, the article was combined with a newer view.

TB

Anonymous said...

http://www.moonofalabama.org/

Syria