tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post129562227259502376..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: One More Thing About that Saudi Death Wagon DealThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-40906087090817702842016-04-17T16:26:29.353-07:002016-04-17T16:26:29.353-07:00I tend to agree, Pamela. General Dynamics is, of c...I tend to agree, Pamela. General Dynamics is, of course, a major US defence contractor. The Land Systems division in London, Ontario is just a branch plant operation. There isn't an order that isn't approved by Washington first and, by the time it gets to Canada, it's a "done deal" thing.<br /><br />What I most dislike about the Trudeau government's handling of this is their repeated attempts to put lipstick on this pig. Their fabrications are so blatant as to be appalling. Trudeau dismissing these vehicles as "Jeeps." Dion's "done deal" claims. On and on and on. They're looking into our faces and lying their asses off.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-25067820318935537172016-04-17T15:33:56.864-07:002016-04-17T15:33:56.864-07:00I still think Canada is a proxy to Washington on t...I still think Canada is a proxy to Washington on this deal Mound.My guess is that Canada under Trudeau will be completely subservient to American Imperialism. I also think they will be subservient to what ever Israel wants as they have already shown by approving the conservative BDS motion. Although implicit in this BDS motion approval is also meant to please the US.People think the liberals were brave when they refused to continue with air strikes in Syria and Iraq. They weren't, although I and many Canadians were glad they did stop.The US has no problem with Canada making this decision. We were very minor players anyway.Where the real bravery will come in is Trudeau saying no to future "trade" deals like the TPP that the US will want Canada to ratify. Saying no to Neoliberalism is what takes guts. I don't see Trudeau and his ministers having the courage to do this. So what if Trudeau develops progressive domestic policies ,but then turns around and completely sells out Canadians and their sovereignty because of the decisions he makes on Foreign policies. A I think this is what he will do.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07842215982128591742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-63184480395230907932016-04-17T08:21:11.758-07:002016-04-17T08:21:11.758-07:00NPoV - no, I don't have that sleazy greaseball...NPoV - no, I don't have that sleazy greaseball in my corner. I oppose this on the facts. Clement is using it as a political football. Had Harper held on that jackass would be praising the deal.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-80818825532526641112016-04-17T06:58:37.753-07:002016-04-17T06:58:37.753-07:00Don't worry Mound... you've now got the gr...Don't worry Mound... you've now got the great Tony Gazebo in your corner on this one.Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-35644178173572315282016-04-17T04:27:21.470-07:002016-04-17T04:27:21.470-07:00This whole things disgusts me and should make the ...This whole things disgusts me and should make the skin of every Canadian crawl. London, Ontario has become 'Columbine North'. It's creepy how there are so many old white guys doing backroom deals for murderers. And then defending them.<br />Here's the other issue: if we really want to do something about Saudi Arabia, we stop buying their oil. Boycott everything from this country of dictators and Bin Laden breeders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-56896330245463137042016-04-16T10:45:27.728-07:002016-04-16T10:45:27.728-07:00@ Boris - yes, you may be right. That, however, do...<br />@ Boris - yes, you may be right. That, however, doesn't take them off the hook for being deceitful about it. If anything we should be told how their hands are tied. We could consider it a primer of international trade.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-74711900231290127972016-04-16T10:33:08.303-07:002016-04-16T10:33:08.303-07:00Anyong said.....Perhaps the hope is by Western Gov...Anyong said.....Perhaps the hope is by Western Governments, they will kill each other off. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-32862544292811771292016-04-16T10:25:11.867-07:002016-04-16T10:25:11.867-07:00I wonder if they were pretzeled with this deal fro...I wonder if they were pretzeled with this deal from the get go. They've botched the handling of it, but I wonder if legal/trade/bilateral-wise Canada is somehow bent over a barrel. The LAV deals go back a long way, long before anyone really cared where they went. I'd really want to be a fly on the wall when the relevant ministers and staff worked this one out. <br /><br />Borishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952672409601421466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4020088660334231382016-04-16T09:42:22.679-07:002016-04-16T09:42:22.679-07:00The mush that Trudeau and Dion are spouting is jus...The mush that Trudeau and Dion are spouting is just propaganda to quell Canadians' doubts. Undoubtedly, there are inducements coming from the White House. The Americans are very good at seducing others into their military industrial complex by spreading the jobs around. In times when the only good jobs are building and selling war wagons there are many who are trapped into doing so; ethics are expensive and the victims are people we don't know on the other side of the world. That selling war wagons to a depraved state like Saudi Arabia is morally wrong is not part of the equation; nor is that the deal does nothing to enhance the defense of Canada. Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-14833363516475219982016-04-16T09:17:00.029-07:002016-04-16T09:17:00.029-07:00Read the update, Rumley. That should put your susp...Read the update, Rumley. That should put your suspicions at rest.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-91489075095672302742016-04-16T09:09:21.707-07:002016-04-16T09:09:21.707-07:00Even if the " jeeps " are not used to ki...Even if the " jeeps " are not used to kill any children, their presence in the Saudi armory will free up other equipment to attack schools. Canada will be just as complicit in the murder of 8 year old, 6 year old and even one year old Yemini kids.rumleyfipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03346146988416679423noreply@blogger.com