tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post1465963876407603832..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: The Unholy TrinityThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-13545645888833040812015-04-05T10:15:36.012-07:002015-04-05T10:15:36.012-07:00Well, I often don't comment on these ones beca...Well, I often don't comment on these ones because while I agree, and it's certainly a huge threat, there's not much to say. Until the media is no longer owned by billionaires who don't want us to think about the huge divergence between our interests and their (short term) interests, it will be amazingly hard to get the majority to think about this stuff.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-16779602535843121442015-04-05T08:34:36.292-07:002015-04-05T08:34:36.292-07:00John's Aghast, I expect some humans to survive...John's Aghast, I expect some humans to survive well into the future although they may be living in squalor. As my father used to say, the 4th world war will be fought with sticks and stones.<br /><br />Mound, you are right that there is a cocktail of perfect storms coming our way. The population bomb is one that is generally overlooked. Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-30366639398297961672015-04-05T00:05:15.553-07:002015-04-05T00:05:15.553-07:00@ Toby, I have you point. Yet, as Jared Diamond co...@ Toby, I have you point. Yet, as Jared Diamond compellingly argues in "Collapse," we must solve all of these challenges if we're to have any real chance of solving any of them. Yes, we have to sharply reduce our global population but we must also curb our production and consumption and bring our economies well back within the bounds of our global environment. It's not a matter of debating which threat is worst when, ultimately, they're all existential. When you have several guns pointing at your head, disarming one is rather pointless. That's why our current focus on global warming could turn into a potentially lethal distraction. I'm sorry. I really know how that must sound.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-65801892009036858812015-04-04T21:34:12.082-07:002015-04-04T21:34:12.082-07:00I understand your dismay, John. This stuff is bec...I understand your dismay, John. This stuff is becoming steadily harder to follow, increasingly difficult to write.<br /><br />The deeper you get into this the more you see how we tenaciously we avoid responding to what are truly existential challenges.<br /><br />As I've mentioned before, in my undergrad years (long, long ago), I became intrigued with Andean Fatalism. I wondered how the Andean Indians could simply accept their lot be it from a bus careening off some treacherous mountain road or a landslide racing down the mountainside to buy their village. I could not grasp how people would be so complacent toward their own, quite possible annihilation.<br /><br />Back then I never could have imagined that we too could become as the Andean mountain people. Yet, here we are.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-38660352740730854402015-04-04T19:16:55.026-07:002015-04-04T19:16:55.026-07:00A very timely, and serious topic Mound. And you g...A very timely, and serious topic Mound. And you get ONE comment!<br />What's the matter? Are all the readers too dumfounded to comment?<br />Admittedly, I haven't added much to the conversation. Perhaps I'm too dismayed!<br />Toby, what makes you believe there will be ANY historians several hundred years hence?John's Aghastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-43256130451110512322015-04-04T15:59:55.094-07:002015-04-04T15:59:55.094-07:00Several hundred years in the future historians wil...Several hundred years in the future historians will take note that the most significant issue of the 20th century is that the population of the world tripled.<br /><br />Without shutting down the population bomb all other fixes to the coming catastrophes are wasted effort. <br /><br />I fully expect that by the middle of this century there will be upwards of two billion refugees on the march. There will be no stopping them. Guillotines will be back in business. Tobynoreply@blogger.com