tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post167292149202869591..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Dear Elizabeth MayThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4179403495679859922016-08-17T13:03:39.577-07:002016-08-17T13:03:39.577-07:00Religion, a good reason for mindlessness. You can...Religion, a good reason for mindlessness. You can't replace science with religon; you sure can replace religion with science. Morality and honesty can be learned without opening the Bible. AnyongAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-40105580164703928062016-08-13T14:09:11.516-07:002016-08-13T14:09:11.516-07:00CBC Parliamentary reporter, Eric Grenier, added th...CBC Parliamentary reporter, Eric Grenier, added this:<br /><br />"Elizabeth May is yesterday’s leader..and I say that with a bittersweet smile.<br /><br />"While she was and is still, for the most part, a formidable parliamentarian, like Tom Mulcair , ousted NDP leader, she has fallen behind her constituency when it comes to values and political philosophy..<br /><br />"May always seemed to have a lamentable tendency to go along with whatever spew Harper chose to throw at Parliament, and her voting record does not bode well for the progressives being increasingly attracted to her party..you could argue that her party has now swung Left while she remains firmly mid-Right on everything except the environment..not a pretty picture for those of us who are frustrated with the NDP foot-dragging, and want an alternative.."The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-69534885377503677182016-08-13T11:33:46.536-07:002016-08-13T11:33:46.536-07:00The Holy War, Sunni v. Shiite, is already well und...The Holy War, Sunni v. Shiite, is already well underway. It's in Syria, in Iraq, Yemen and elsewhere. On this blog you'll find a few posts that reference a farewell visit received by retiring MI6 Chief, Sir Richard Dearlove, from then Saudi defence/security minister, Prince Bandar bin Sultan. Dearlove said Bandar proceeded to tell him that the Sunnis, led by the Saudis, intended to wipe out the numerically far inferior Shia "once and for all." Within a couple of years, out of nowhere, ISIS materialized, trained, armed, ready to go. Just like al Qaeda before them, ISIS was funded by the Sunni Gulf princes, emirs and sheikhs. <br /><br />We won't start another Holy War. We might, however, stop facilitating the one that's already underway.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47208090758756567752016-08-13T10:52:26.099-07:002016-08-13T10:52:26.099-07:00As if we need another Holy War!As if we need another Holy War!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-7503745205461669102016-08-12T16:54:38.615-07:002016-08-12T16:54:38.615-07:00At least I used a map that's 11-years out of d...At least I used a map that's 11-years out of date. It's a helluva lot worse today. Good to hear from you, PLG.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-54361358419702785532016-08-12T16:33:03.894-07:002016-08-12T16:33:03.894-07:00Publishing a map? That shows things in easy-to-un...Publishing a map? That shows things in easy-to-understand graphic form?! You know that's forbidden, how anti-semitic of you. ;)Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-37073160915176200482016-08-12T11:31:00.723-07:002016-08-12T11:31:00.723-07:00NPoV, I do wonder if the ethnic, tribal and sectar...NPoV, I do wonder if the ethnic, tribal and sectarian conflicts that rage across the Muslim world today might not abate, at least somewhat, if Western meddling was halted. Since the era of Napoleon, Christian caucasians have been trying to control the Middle East, inevitably to suit our, not their, purposes. In some ways (Sykes-Picot, for example) we have set them against each other.<br /><br />Perhaps it's too late to try withdrawal. It could be that would trigger a wave of nuclear proliferation. And there's Putin who may be seeking to avenge the ouster of the Soviet presence by Washington decades ago. Then again, another 30-years and climate change could render much of the Muslim world uninhabitable. Decisions, decisions.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-60862086598734198812016-08-12T11:05:53.318-07:002016-08-12T11:05:53.318-07:00found a Green Party you might like....
http://www...found a Green Party you might like....<br /><br />http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/08/12/canadian-greens-vs-us-greens/Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-14429174739781582522016-08-12T10:33:55.488-07:002016-08-12T10:33:55.488-07:00"we own it"
sure I know it was meant as..."we own it"<br /><br />sure I know it was meant as a warning ... but it sounds like .... 'the white man's burden' stuff now. And we've had so much success to date. (I am well aware of the clusterfuck Bush & Blair created and don't need no stinkin NYT to tell me.)<br />Time to go home and let the locals sort it out.<br /><br /><br />I met a Brit who said about Muslims... "if they'd just stop bombing us" <br />He failed to see the irony when carefully explained to him.Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-87453072597726307712016-08-12T09:47:07.960-07:002016-08-12T09:47:07.960-07:00NPoV, you seem to have made the case for Western d...NPoV, you seem to have made the case for Western disengagement from the Middle East. Your comment on the NYT Magazine issue confirms it. The magazine doesn't suggest that "the ME is fixed up so nice" as you suggest but, then again, you noted you would be bored to tears reading it. In fact what comes out is that the Bush/Cheney/Blair invasion of Iraq destabilized the entire region, triggering endless wars in the Arab world.<br /><br />Unfortunately, using Colin Powell's "Pottery Barn" analogy, it's a mess we triggered and we own it. Erdogan's budding bromance with Putin must have Washington in knots. It's a geopolitical fiasco. The notion of an Erdogan/Putin/Assad pact is almost as unbelievable as it is possible. Putin isn't playing footsie with Erdogan out of admiration. I still think Erdogan will some day pay for that Russian shootdown. He does, however, offer Putin a possible means to further erode US influence in the region and it's already wobbly. If America had a hand in the abortive coup in Turkey I'll bet they're now wishing they had done a proper job of eliminating Erdogan.<br />The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-68678200112314030232016-08-12T07:11:30.817-07:002016-08-12T07:11:30.817-07:00Promoting balanced attitudes towards the Middle Ea...Promoting balanced attitudes towards the Middle East in "Western Democracies" is akin to albino sunbathers and just as rewarding. Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-83003168472221285322016-08-11T22:43:43.098-07:002016-08-11T22:43:43.098-07:00The Greens are not popular enough to take chances ...The Greens are not popular enough to take chances .<br />I agree with the Greens and vote for them.<br />Destroying themselves from the inside out won't help.<br />Some things should be left alone until they have more ,rounded, support.<br /><br />TBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-92157038154662201012016-08-11T18:26:48.107-07:002016-08-11T18:26:48.107-07:00TB - if you read the post, the graphic of the UN G...TB - if you read the post, the graphic of the UN General Assembly vote, the quotes from so many prominent Israelis including one who had first hand experience of the rise of fascism in Nazi Germany to later rise to be the second in command of the Israeli Army, it would indeed have been expedient for the Green Party membership to join the rest of Canada's political parties in looking the other way. The Tories do it. The Liberals do it. The NDP ride the fence of cowardice. The Green Party isn't just an environmental movement. It is a social justice party. To fault them for being the lone party to take a principled stand on the Palestinian nightmare says more about you, TB, than it does the Green Party. BTW, the Greens in Europe also back BDS. The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-27041076075641041802016-08-11T18:02:44.080-07:002016-08-11T18:02:44.080-07:00Elizabeth May, in chasing "votes,,,,,,,,,,,,,...<br />Elizabeth May, in chasing "votes,,,,,,,,,,,,,<br />Holy shit ; I think she is better than that!<br />It's the GREEN party ffs; there are easier fish to catch than demonising Israel.<br />Israel is a shitty little nation that in an earlier age, remember South Africa, would suffer the general public's outrage.<br />In a media highly influenced or owned by Jewish nationalists !! May is unlikely to attract anything but anger and subversion...<br />SHit ; the Greens should ,at this stage of their growth, should have kept their mouths shut.......<br /><br />TB<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-57525783906176441542016-08-11T15:55:53.206-07:002016-08-11T15:55:53.206-07:00Like yourself Mound, I agree with Pamela.
Elizab...Like yourself Mound, I agree with Pamela. <br /><br />Elizabeth May, in chasing "votes" has lost my support of the Greens. I matters little what the soldiers of the Greens may say, the rot started at the head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-19370394763287754992016-08-11T13:52:29.078-07:002016-08-11T13:52:29.078-07:00I share your thoughts, Pamela. I too have question...<br />I share your thoughts, Pamela. I too have questioned how long any Canadian would tolerate the conditions inflicted on the Palestinians and how we would respond. When one side has all the heavy firepower the weaker side's options are limited.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-31379123995857475182016-08-11T13:50:03.006-07:002016-08-11T13:50:03.006-07:00They are failing us indeed, Lorne. I've about ...They are failing us indeed, Lorne. I've about had it with the lot of them.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-25729350765750115702016-08-11T12:30:27.052-07:002016-08-11T12:30:27.052-07:00 Mound, one just has to imagine what it would be l... Mound, one just has to imagine what it would be like to have to experience what the Palestinians experience at the hands of the Israelis. One does not even have to know the history and politics between the 2 countries. <br /><br />Just imagine for a minute what it would be like if another country came into your country and destroyed your homes, confiscated your land and built settlements on your confiscated land.<br /><br />Just imagine being occupied by this same country where a blockade is put in place to monitor your every movement. Then imagine having to live in a ghetto/camp which is nothing short of an open prison.<br /><br />Then there is the violence. Imagine bombs being reigned on you at will, your schools and hospitals pulverized and your friends and family including your children are killed.<br /><br />Imagine on a daily basis, being maligned, denigrated and even being killed because you, like the Palestinians, are simply a Canadian. A Canadian, whose country someone else wants.<br /><br />Imagine this genocide being done to you before the eyes of the world, for all to see, for years and years and no one comes to your rescue. Imagine that this is your life, day in and day out.<br /><br />Now, thank goodness, there is the BDS movement that many countries have embraced. A peaceful tool of dissent which can expose and hopefully, eventually stop the Israeli abuse and destruction of the Palestinian people. <br /><br />Elizabeth May from her daily life in safe peaceful Canada is against the BDS movement and thus implicitly she is against Canadians right to peacefully dissent.<br /><br />I always thought that when it came to supporting human rights Elizabeth May was better then other politicians. I was wrong.<br /><br />People like Trudeau and May who have the power to alleviate or even stop the unearned suffering of the Palestinian people and choose to not only not do so, but in fact support the people who are the causing that suffering, the Israelis, these people are nothing short of amoral.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07842215982128591742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-84145634572922094982016-08-11T12:13:35.150-07:002016-08-11T12:13:35.150-07:00These are times that test the integrity and mettle...These are times that test the integrity and mettle of those who would lead us, Mound. Clearly, Canadian politicians are failing the test.Lornehttp://www.politicsanditsdiscontents.blogspot.canoreply@blogger.com