tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post2329588166517984508..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: More Civil Wars Loom for AfghanistanThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-16480835921336244692007-10-04T20:50:00.000-07:002007-10-04T20:50:00.000-07:00Hey Mike: Haven't read it but I'll put it on my l...Hey Mike: Haven't read it but I'll put it on my list. You're right though about Dostum and Hekmatyar and a half dozen others including that vicious bastard Gul Agha. <BR/><BR/>Explain this to me, Mike. Anyone who takes a few hours to learn just basics of the past three centuries of Afghan history knows about these thugs, their deeds and their influence in today's Afghanistan. Each of these guys, individually, and even more so taken collectively, is/are heavily determinant of everything we're notionally trying to accomplish in that shithole. Yet, in policy and practice, we act as though they didn't exist. We send our terrific young kids out trolling for IEDs as though these guys were irrelevant. I don't know how you see it, but to me that's an inexcusable betrayal of our soldiers. We've left our people completely on the defensive, buying ever more blastworthy machines to protect them from ever more powerful explosive devices laid in their paths by the guys who really control "our" territory, the insurgents.<BR/><BR/>I was raised by a horribly wounded WWII combat vet. I am much too well aware of what modern warfare does to these people long after they're relegated to something to drink to in the local Legion. <BR/><BR/>My Dad served and so did I. No one has to convince me that there are fights that need to be fought. No one can tell me either what that means for at least some of the survivors and families whose fates are fixed by those actions. <BR/><BR/>What I know, Mike, is that, unlike your average MP, the lives that are sent into this shredder leave a great, huge, ugly stain that the "heroes" and their families have to keep cleaning up, again and again and again.<BR/><BR/>Once that reality becomes part of your life you don't waste any money on magnetic ribbon ornaments for your tailgate.<BR/><BR/>Damn, this makes me mad!The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-83153915269523136692007-10-04T19:50:00.000-07:002007-10-04T19:50:00.000-07:00Have you read "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll? Dostum a...Have you read "Ghost Wars" by Steve Coll? Dostum and Hekmatyar are vicious thugs that change sides like most people change underwear. At one time or another both were in the Soviet backed government, the brief government that ruled after the Soviets left, the Taliban and even the Northern Alliance.<BR/><BR/>Yes, 71 Canadians have died for history to repeat itself in Afghanistan. <BR/><BR/>What a waste.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06941875334878452635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-17653758573551716972007-10-01T11:26:00.000-07:002007-10-01T11:26:00.000-07:00Hi Stephen: You're right about Hekmatyar's past w...Hi Stephen: You're right about Hekmatyar's past with the CIA. He was driven out by the Taliban in 1996, taking refuge in Tehran. When he became a problem for Karzai the US complained to Iran but then backed off when Iran suggested they'd make him leave. Apparently Washington wasn't too keen on getting this guy back in Afghanistan. <BR/><BR/>Bear in mind that Hekmatyar was twice Prime Minister of Afghanistan. He's not just some street thug.<BR/><BR/>Ronald Reagan called Hekmatyar and his colleagues "the moral equivalent of the founding fathers."<BR/><BR/>The CIA used a Predator drone to try to take the guy out in 2002 but missed and hit a madrassa instead. <BR/><BR/>Karzai keeps showing himself as utterly weak, indecisive and ineffective. It's hardly any wonder that his loose alliance with warlords like Dostum may be crumbling. When they see guys like Hekmatyar and the Taliban resurgent, what conceivable use do they have for Karzai?The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-7771394236172219292007-10-01T10:10:00.000-07:002007-10-01T10:10:00.000-07:00I don't think DiManno mentions this, but it's wort...I don't think DiManno mentions this, but it's worth noting that Hekmatyar was once a CIA client and a major recipient of the billions of dollars the US funneled to anti-Soviet mujahedeen forces in Afghanistan via Pakistan. The Saudis helped fund him as well.<BR/><BR/>Back when they were fighting the Soviets and their client government, the US and its regional allies had few problems with supporting, funding and equipping violent extremists like Hekmatyar, regardless of the crimes they were then committing against their fellow Afghans.<BR/><BR/>Such inconvenient facts of history are worth remembering whenever Western leaders wax poetic about their deep and abiding concern for the well-being of Afghanistan's people: after all, some of their governments helped to create the 'nest of vipers,' even raising from eggs some of the most vicious of the serpents.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948813957907216580noreply@blogger.com