tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post257923627181456258..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Restoring the Vox Populi The Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-57971613087219105462014-09-01T16:29:07.474-07:002014-09-01T16:29:07.474-07:00Mound
If you are right then we are in much worse s...Mound<br />If you are right then we are in much worse shape then I thought, but Trudeau and Mulcairs vocal abandonment of Palestine may be the tip off to a big part of who they would be as PM's. My idealism is taking a beating.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07842215982128591742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-88699478228332096552014-09-01T14:58:56.115-07:002014-09-01T14:58:56.115-07:00@ Sal. I just posted an item "breaking the c...@ Sal. I just posted an item "breaking the cartel" that addresses the failures of our corporate media to hold any of our politicians to account once in power. <br /><br />@ Pam. I learned a lot from the failures of Obama, enough not to hope that either Mulcair or Trudeau will really sweep aside the excesses of Harper. One look at their shallow, constipated platforms is enough for me to have near zero confidence in either of them.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-9631086194600302442014-09-01T13:47:34.854-07:002014-09-01T13:47:34.854-07:00"To figure out who rules, simply identify who..."To figure out who rules, simply identify who you cannot criticize"<br />Voltaire<br />Politics is now about power. If not a new party we need to restructure our parliamentary infrastructure and curtail the power that the PM and PMO office has for starters . We need real checks and balances. The fact that a man like Harper can become our PM reminds us everyday that there is something seriously wrong with our democratic system and our culture. We shouldn't after an election cross our fingers and hope our newly elected PM<br />is really only interested in pursuing power.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07842215982128591742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-49304645796390266102014-09-01T12:31:08.863-07:002014-09-01T12:31:08.863-07:00.. Bingo .. !
Nail on the Head ..
Bullseye ..
The..... Bingo .. !<br />Nail on the Head ..<br />Bullseye ..<br /><br />The dreams, needs, wishes and direction of the population of Canada are currently irrelevant.<br /><br />Elections have devolved to gaming of voting population, grooming of electorate or 'the base' or outright fallacy and fraud.<br /><br />Reality is so suspended, distorted or denied that er have twits like Mark Adler or Rob Anders or Brad Butt being nominated, supported and elected.. No exemplars need apply.<br /><br /> Our PM counts leveraging either his wife, his wig or a chinchilla as election promise.. while ejecting and punting budget items to later years in search of an election year budget surplus. The day mainstream media call this experimental juvenile economist gasbag for incompetance, arrogance, duplicity and secrecy, I'll fall from my chair. What his odd idolation of Israel is about must be related to his mysterious evangelical religious leanings. But one musn't mention this stuff publicly. <br /><br />I care nothing of the inclinations of his tormented wife.. or his unelected secretive room mate Ray.. but only a coward or sociopath in today's era maintains complete fiction on the level of Stephen Harper. <br /><br />Trudeau? Mulcair? One hopes as the only visible alternatives they are somewhat more real and connected to the reality of Canada and Canadians. Trying to view John Baird, Jason Kenney, Tony Clement, James Moore or Peter MacKay as legitimate future leaders is laughable.. their secrets, failures, fallacies and baggage approach those of Harper<br /><br />I don't know that we need new parties.. but we need fumigation & simplistic rules that are functional and realistic.. not the constant arcane contravention, obstruction, deviation and duplicity Harper, his PMO and hordes of salaried lawyers cook up<br /><br />Perhaps politics should be like jury duty or conscription. Two years at suitable recompense and you are done. Carpenters, farmers, housewives, loggers, teachers, biologists and caretakers please apply or be nominated.the salamanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853337802990122289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4076318024745327782014-09-01T12:26:00.184-07:002014-09-01T12:26:00.184-07:00I can certainly see how a system like loomio could...I can certainly see how a system like loomio could help, PLG. The hurdle I see is in getting enough Dippers mobilized to create a new party of the Left. That part of our political spectrum has been abandoned and, with it, we've lost our political equilibrium. Despite that I'm skeptical that the will exists to rebuild the Left. If only..The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-67482152537765879532014-09-01T11:55:42.887-07:002014-09-01T11:55:42.887-07:00One problem with any new party is that as it rises...One problem with any new party is that as it rises, it will face the same pressures as all the old parties. If it is not structured in a way which allows real control from the grass roots, it will inevitably sell out. We see it happen in Europe over and over; in places like Germany the party system is rather more fluid, but every time a new left-ish party rises, a few years later its leaders have joined the status quo.<br /><br />Mechanisms for direct democracy are needed. One I'm currently interested in is <br />www.loomio.org<br />I was interested to realize that the loomio tool has started to get used extensively by the new Spanish left party Podemos. I'm eager to see whether this will keep the party closer to the activists that are building it.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-52506225473929259752014-09-01T11:34:50.176-07:002014-09-01T11:34:50.176-07:00That's certainly true enough, Lorne, and it do...That's certainly true enough, Lorne, and it does speak to the growing gap between those who govern and those they govern. That is the gap of neoliberalism and it inevitably leads to illiberal democracy.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-34717063742203235452014-09-01T11:25:54.970-07:002014-09-01T11:25:54.970-07:00Related to your thought that our voice is not list...Related to your thought that our voice is not listened to, Mound, I am always reminded of the arrant arrogance of politicos when they dismiss a lack of support for one of their initiatives: <br /><br />"We have to find a way to better communicate our message."<br /><br />Never for a moment does it seem they consider the possibility that the people might be right and they might wrong.Lornehttp://www.politicsanditsdiscontents.blogspot.canoreply@blogger.com