tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post3324158903485313330..comments2024-03-18T21:55:56.412-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Lookee What I Found In the Financial TimesThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-24253422681673040332018-09-03T00:23:38.281-07:002018-09-03T00:23:38.281-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.user3srsoftwaresolurtionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16392290790235950600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-36464353851016801492016-08-31T10:58:55.315-07:002016-08-31T10:58:55.315-07:00@ Cap - you might find it helpful to follow the li...@ Cap - you might find it helpful to follow the link above to professor Rodrick's site.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-57962714014824090612016-08-31T10:57:40.306-07:002016-08-31T10:57:40.306-07:00@ TB, you've identified a few of the pressing ...<br />@ TB, you've identified a few of the pressing problems globalized free trade doesn't and will never address. The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-19439368678954853742016-08-31T10:56:35.791-07:002016-08-31T10:56:35.791-07:00@ NPoV - I couldn't agree more. These ISDS pro...@ NPoV - I couldn't agree more. These ISDS provisions have to go. They are the instrument of surrender of state sovereignty to the corporate sector which is completely one-sided. The corporate sector gives nothing in exchange for these yielded powers. It sets them up as an unaccountable yet competing power structure. Damn every politician that has facilitated this surrender.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-38190975636203736382016-08-31T10:53:15.727-07:002016-08-31T10:53:15.727-07:00@ Toby - I see the meta-nationals as the logical, ...@ Toby - I see the meta-nationals as the logical, perhaps ultimate manifestation of corporatism but that's still corporatism. See Theodore Roosevelt's "square deal" speech for the role corporations should play in a progressive democracy.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-72974216311822497402016-08-30T19:25:48.988-07:002016-08-30T19:25:48.988-07:00I'm not sure you can pick any two out of three...I'm not sure you can pick any two out of three:<br /><br />1. Democracy and national sovereignty - OK, that's the world pre-globalization.<br />2. National sovereignty and global economic integration - I suppose that's possible but there wouldn't be much national sovereignty left.<br />3. Democracy and global economic integration - I don't see how these coexist at all. Hard to imagine a global democracy that would stand for economic integration as it is currently reflected in deals like TPP, NAFTA, TTIP, and so on.<br /><br />CapAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-33382004240549232282016-08-30T17:46:47.522-07:002016-08-30T17:46:47.522-07:00Re
Globalised free trade was sold to an anxious p...Re<br /><br />Globalised free trade was sold to an anxious public on the promise it would create more jobs and higher wages.<br /><br />Blog after blog the question comes up of how to protect the status quo.<br />Rid ourselves of Neo liberalism, Socialism, Capitalism!<br />We want, this that , the other!<br />Never a mention of what we will give to humanity or what can the world sustain.<br />On the grand scale, even the one percent are inconsequential when discussing world event and the global footprint of a over populated humanity.<br /><br />TB <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78469295367279246492016-08-30T16:34:24.103-07:002016-08-30T16:34:24.103-07:00From my ancient marketing days I remember: What...From my ancient marketing days I remember: What's the most powerful word in the English language? "free"<br /><br />'Corporate Rights Agreements' naw .. let's go with Free Trade... that's the ticket.<br /><br />I can see how this might be beyond young Trudeau but I would bet Butts gets it. I think he is afraid to face the IMF/USA/EU/World Bank and the kind of revenge they would inflict for deviating from party line.<br /><br />The worst part of these deals is by far the Investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) tools. (First invented for Mulrooney's' FTA I believe.) <br />The Europeans are pushing back on that in CETA and much of the anti-TPP is focussed there. It is an issue that is fairly easy to explain and give concrete examples of the harm.<br />Gutting the ISDS from the deals would be a huge win and a first step in regaining our sovereignty. <br /><br /> <br /> Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-19683094312899211952016-08-30T16:23:51.932-07:002016-08-30T16:23:51.932-07:00It looks to me that there is a rogue elephant in P...It looks to me that there is a rogue elephant in Professor Rodrik's trilemma: the meta-national corporation. Maybe we should think of it as a quadrilemma. Meta-national corporations are totally self interested and really don't want any friction at all from democracies, sovereign governments or global economic rules. Three strikes and we are out. <br /><br />We have to rein in big corporations, meta-national, multinational or local. The old fashioned nation state used to be able to control corporations but the globalization movement has simply cut the reins and let them run amok. It is now going to take an awful lot of concerted international effort to bring in solid rules, with teeth, that bring corporations under control. Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-567843411191430592016-08-30T15:32:39.396-07:002016-08-30T15:32:39.396-07:00I don't know, Lorne. They're causing us a ...I don't know, Lorne. They're causing us a lot of damage pursuing this now discredited ideology and that goes for the current office holder also. I think as a people we've become so inured to globalized free trade that we fail to demand better. Meanwhile the assault on our national sovereignty isn't really in the public mind. You have to realize what's being lost, that this really is a trilemma. I don't think people understand what's at stake.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-67097138592045062822016-08-30T14:50:04.191-07:002016-08-30T14:50:04.191-07:00The only question I have, Mound, and i think it is...The only question I have, Mound, and i think it is a valid one, is this: Even if there is a growing awareness of the Faustian pact involved in global capitalism, with all of our political leaders in its thrall, what chance is there to change its trajectory?Lornehttp://www.politicsanditsdiscontents.blogspot.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78637494532067149222016-08-30T14:41:31.861-07:002016-08-30T14:41:31.861-07:00It seems destined to head one way or the other, Ki...<br />It seems destined to head one way or the other, Kirby. Unfortunately Trudeau has joined an unbroken chain of federal leaders going back to Mulroney who were avowed global free traders. I'm not sure how many Canadians understand professor Rodrik's "trilemma" and yet it's inescapably true.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-55753140702090221462016-08-30T14:16:57.974-07:002016-08-30T14:16:57.974-07:00I think your post demonstrates what is the beginni...I think your post demonstrates what is the beginning of a more public acknowledgement that neo-liberalism is problematic and a failing ideology. The only real question is, will this growing realization translate into a new voice in progressive politics or will it only create a regression toward fascism?Kirbycairohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17528654183160305877noreply@blogger.com