tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post3970070360063793881..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Trudeau Has FlippedThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-40057348457453687282016-05-05T07:01:30.412-07:002016-05-05T07:01:30.412-07:00I think both May & Trudeau are correct ...
bu...I think both May & Trudeau are correct ... <br />but Trudeau of course is serving only half a loaf: <br />Yes it is a single weather event with complex causes that are hard to exactly quantify .. but <br />Yes it is also very much part of an undeniable pattern.<br /><br />imho (and with the same awkward timing of E. May) ....<br /><br />The fires may be Gaia's response - is she trying to convert these regions to a desert ecology that can survive the warming?<br /><br />Lovelock's Gaia theory includes: "Transitions between stable climate states may be sudden" <br />Is Lovelock's theory coming true? <br />Boreal forest-->Northern desert?Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78406083860699593072016-05-05T03:26:22.865-07:002016-05-05T03:26:22.865-07:00Oh, JT. Mind you, I've been watching certain m...Oh, JT. Mind you, I've been watching certain members of the press and rightwing idiots on twitter and other places admonishing "climate activists" for gloating and smugness. The public and political discourse on climate and the tar sands is going to be nuts in the fallout. There'll be tremendous pressure to rebuild Fort Mac and to pander/rationalise a la JT's comments because of the vested interests in maintaining the status quo and the emotional pressure from displaced people. Borishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00952672409601421466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-57471906850701916482016-05-04T19:28:59.859-07:002016-05-04T19:28:59.859-07:00It used to be First Nations were the front lines i...It used to be First Nations were the front lines in forest fire fighting. That's how I know this. Few if any of the adults in my own community fight fires anymore. The small crews are pretty much all disbanded, and the larger union crews are fighting each other for the scant contracts that province bothers to create.<br />It's a failure of leadership starting from Gordan Campbell, and has worsened under Christy Clark. If it's a hot summer, and in addition to her ongoing illegal funding scandal, she'll really become Crispy.<br /><br />Fort Mac really should serve a a warning. Like the dozens and hundreds of other climate events that've occurred over the past decade. But it won't, at least to our political leadership. As Trudeau is demonstrating, they'll stick their heads into the sand, and cover their ears while they're at it. La la la la!<br />We can mitigate the worst of fire damage, and lessen the threat to communities with controlled burnings, and understanding what communities are most at risk. But BC, and Alberta went in the opposite direction, cutting fire fighting funding, chopping right into the bone. That's a massive failure in leadership. Right when our scientists, and community elder statesmen are saying loud and clear, we're at greater and graver risk ever year to increasingly ferocious fires every new season. And the fire season is beginning earlier every new year, too.<br />Most of the old pros are gone from the industry, now. The ones who understood fires in their strange intricacies and behaviors. Most new recruits are going to have to learn the ropes of the industry on the job, and that has the possibility of going pear shaped very quickly. It's a dangerous job.<br />Perhaps if Christy Clark opens up the province's purse strings, or even promises to donate even half of her own personal illegal funding, perhaps we could afford to bring back the small crews into the industry, although Forests would probably have to pay a hell of a premium.<br />Still better than being caught flat footed, which is what I expect to happen when the next town goes up in flames.Troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10759047914577194212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-61638998447887571172016-05-04T19:27:02.027-07:002016-05-04T19:27:02.027-07:00Elizabeth May is the only voice of reason these da...Elizabeth May is the only voice of reason these days Mound. Trudeau's dismissive answer to EM, also has a grain of arrogance to it.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07842215982128591742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-13757110687445824412016-05-04T18:30:49.905-07:002016-05-04T18:30:49.905-07:00@ Troy. I had no idea about the staffing problem. ...@ Troy. I had no idea about the staffing problem. Thanks.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-22783302675933883182016-05-04T18:29:32.662-07:002016-05-04T18:29:32.662-07:00Oh I was, Kyle, for about 40-years. Your party lef...Oh I was, Kyle, for about 40-years. Your party left me during the Ignatieff term as it followed Harper's shift to the right. It's still Conservative Lite under Junior whether it's maintenance of the surveillance state, BDS, the Saudi death wagon deal, expansion of bitumen production, or the disgraceful retreat from any hope of meaningful action on climate change.<br /><br />There's nothing remotely progressive about the Liberal Party of Canada. It's very name is a misnomer. There's nothing "liberal" about it notwithstanding Trudeau's "Sunni" ways.<br /><br />The Dauphin, your clown prince, even retains Harper's industry-stacked National Energy Board and justifies his policies on their rigged decision-making.<br /><br />I have freely given Trudeau credit for all the good things he's done but they're invariably the easy things, the low hanging fruit. Whenever it comes to the tough issues, however, he folds. <br /><br />I know you're too young, Kyle, but I remember his father. It was Pierre Trudeau who brought me into your party and it was his legacy that kept me with the Liberal Party even as doubts set in under his successors. I didn't leave lightly or easily but I don't regret the decision, not at all.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-43378953708687989242016-05-04T18:27:45.153-07:002016-05-04T18:27:45.153-07:00"British Columbia would like to send large nu..."British Columbia would like to send large numbers of forest firefighters to help out in Alberta but we can't. Our crews are engaged fighting fires in our province primarily in the northeast section."<br /><br />There's also the fact the BC Liberals have also gutted the BC forest fire fighting industry. It's probably half the size it used to be in the nineties. They're quietly alarmed about this, and are trying recruit people for fire fighting even in my own community, but after how they've been treated during the past decade, many of the old pros still aren't going back.Troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10759047914577194212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-21060648115387057322016-05-04T17:54:30.950-07:002016-05-04T17:54:30.950-07:00I'm glad you have "Disaffected Lib" ...I'm glad you have "Disaffected Lib" in your name, I'd never want to have you associated directly with our party.Kyle H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06049961780427560881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-86001143721672942692016-05-04T17:20:37.721-07:002016-05-04T17:20:37.721-07:00I truly wanted his "sunny ways" to trans...<br />I truly wanted his "sunny ways" to translate into genuine progressive leadership, Lorne, but that's not the direction this Liberal government is taking.<br /><br />He's not Harper. I get that and I appreciate it but he's not what we were given to expect either.<br /><br />Our country, just like every other nation, is confronted by a maze of serious challenges. When it comes to addressing them sure there are countries doing a worse job than Canada but there are many countries that are similarly developed and affluent that are doing a far better job than we are.<br /><br />Trudeau wanted the job. He asked for it. We gave it to him. Now he doesn't want to do it. He doesn't want to do the heavy lifting that comes with the job. The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-55090132781829845642016-05-04T16:51:35.576-07:002016-05-04T16:51:35.576-07:00Increasingly, Mound, Trudeau is sounding like a pr...Increasingly, Mound, Trudeau is sounding like a professional politician. It didn't take as long as I thought for the corruption process to set in.Lornehttp://www.politicsanditsdiscontents.blogspot.canoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47065359069260132252016-05-04T16:39:28.468-07:002016-05-04T16:39:28.468-07:00Actually, I think it would be a shorter drive to g...Actually, I think it would be a shorter drive to go right into Edmonton. The air base is over abutting the Saskatchewan border.<br /><br />Cold Lake is likely hosting water bombers during the emergency.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-1951650690571903422016-05-04T16:13:14.487-07:002016-05-04T16:13:14.487-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-25411109022497366912016-05-04T15:58:06.587-07:002016-05-04T15:58:06.587-07:00Mound, I may be a way off base but it seems to me ...Mound, I may be a way off base but it seems to me that the weakest Minister is Defence Minister, Harjit Singh Sajjan. The Cold Lake base is south of Fort McMurray. The military could have provided help to the fire fighters or police or opened their gates to evacuees. Sajjan could have at least made a phone call to the Alberta Premier and offered something. Yes, I know this is not as exciting as fighting terrorists in far flung places but it is an at home emergency. <br /><br />And yes, the fire season is way too early and one doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to make the association with global warming. C'mon, Trudeau, wake up!Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4546489044098586322016-05-04T15:39:58.716-07:002016-05-04T15:39:58.716-07:00Mound, you aren't the only one to notice that ...Mound, you aren't the only one to notice that Trudeau isn't living up to his promises. Did you see this in the Huff Post?<br /><br />"Enough Trudeaumania, Let's See Some Real Progress"<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/james-di-fiore/trudeau-fatigue_b_9840622.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics&ir=Canada+Politics<br /><br />Trudeau and crew look like they are skating by every serious issue. Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-42400482819272795532016-05-04T15:39:07.493-07:002016-05-04T15:39:07.493-07:00I couldn't believe it when I read that earlier...I couldn't believe it when I read that earlier. <br /><br />Can explain the idea of quantum computing - albeit rather simplistically - but can still spout anti-scientific gibberish about AGW. <br /><br />Impressed in a bad way. Not significantly different from a response Harper would have given. Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.com