tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post5953741150444876980..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Tony Clement - All-Canadian EmbarrassmentThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-63869384103299048652008-08-06T12:38:00.000-07:002008-08-06T12:38:00.000-07:00A lot of Vancouver police officers share your view...A lot of Vancouver police officers share your view that drug addiction is primarily a health issue, not a criminal matter. Drug trafficking is viewed by them as a serious criminal problem but they're able to see a clear line between the sellers and the users.<BR/><BR/>There are a lot of convincing arguments for decriminalization of possession but the Insite debate stands alone.<BR/><BR/>Reaching the addict population is far more beneficial to society than driving these people underground.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your input 'Shroom.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-23435188805791561912008-08-06T11:52:00.000-07:002008-08-06T11:52:00.000-07:00I have seen the effectiveness of a safe injection ...I have seen the effectiveness of a safe injection site in Manchester, England. The site has its merits. Not only does it serve as harm reduction, it also provides the opportunity for drug addicted prostitutes to hide from their pimps. The results of this have led me to expand it a bit further by offering prescription heroin at the same time. If you can control the drug habits of these prostitutes, maybe they can lead a much healthier livelihood than one which leads to exposure of sexual abuse, STDs etc. Drug addiction is a mental health issue not a law and order issue. Just something to add to your point.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the Harper government should pass a law putting a mandatory death penalty on individuals living on the avails of prostitution, or whatever you call it. Shows the ideological idiocy of their position in full force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-34926864340246597382008-08-06T11:26:00.000-07:002008-08-06T11:26:00.000-07:00The purpose of Insite isn't to make drugs availabl...The purpose of Insite isn't to make drugs available. It provides clean needles and a safe, hygenic place for users to shoot up. It's an alternative to Vancouver's back alleys and you should troll through them before you pass judgment. I'm sure you won't find Harpo or Subprime Tony going there to hang with the dopers.<BR/><BR/>Insite doesn't provide drugs but it does help in stemming the spread of lethal diseases such as HIV/Aids and Hep C associated with sharing contaminated needles. <BR/><BR/>Don't think for a moment that these diseases don't spread further into the non-drug abusing population. They do. Their spread is pernicious and every infection chain that can be stopped by something as simple as Insite must be stopped.<BR/><BR/>The other benefit of Insite is that it's staffed by professionals who can offer counselling and assistance to those addicts who finally want to quit. You don't find that either in our back alleys.<BR/><BR/>I have had the unpleasant experience of walking these alleys. I've seen gthese wretches shooting up in grotty doorways. Sorry, but I've completely missed the social benefit to keeping them in that condition. I suppose it's apparent to you.<BR/><BR/>Does it strike you as curious that this cabinet minister can't bring himself to address these issues? He won't because the facts totally undermine his ideologically driven, utterly empty and pathetic position.<BR/><BR/>By the way, "many" Canadians can be said to agree on just about anything. Define "many".<BR/>The issue of decriminalization of drugs is separate and apart from the Insite programme.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78635624111101791502008-08-06T11:07:00.000-07:002008-08-06T11:07:00.000-07:00Wilson,Why don't the Harper government table a bil...Wilson,<BR/><BR/>Why don't the Harper government table a bill in the House of Commons calling for the MANDATORY death sentence by hanging with regards to the possession of heroin for trafficking purposes? Be sure to make it a confidence motion. Note the word MANDATORY.<BR/><BR/>Shows the logic which you guys run on. It is time to put up or shut up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-3559008999547281082008-08-06T11:03:00.000-07:002008-08-06T11:03:00.000-07:00MOS,Apparently there is still the NAOMI study on t...MOS,<BR/><BR/>Apparently there is still the NAOMI study on the distribution of prescription heroin that has not been shut down<BR/>http://www.naomistudy.ca/<BR/><BR/>Would you support extending Insite to include the regulated distribution of these controlled substances?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-28004435229200862252008-08-06T11:02:00.000-07:002008-08-06T11:02:00.000-07:00While that's your opinion, many Canadians and BCe...While that's your opinion, <BR/> many Canadians and BCers agree with the Gov'ts stand on Insite.<BR/>'harm addiction' vs. harm reduction needs to be debated. <BR/>Tony delivered the news, that doesn't make him a doo stuck to your shoe.<BR/>I have a loved one that was addicted ot drugs. <BR/>I am thankfull there was no place for him to go to get his drugs 'safely'. Had there been, he would have taken the path of least resistance, and still be addicted instead of beating it.<BR/>true story.<BR/>It's my opinion that the Government of Canada should not be an enabler.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-19235786799134043982008-08-06T09:49:00.000-07:002008-08-06T09:49:00.000-07:00Wilson, bag it. Clement has made a fool of himsel...Wilson, bag it. Clement has made a fool of himself since he surfaced under Mike Harris. His performance on the Chalk River fiasco was deplorable. His own ministry staff endorse the merits of safe injection facilities such as Insite. Our provincial government and the City of Vancouver back it as a proven harm reduction facility. Only this arsehole - and those who eat this brand of crap - indulge in the pure sophistry of attacking these programmes as "harm addition." There's the crap Wilson - here's your fork.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-6123613387936241122008-08-06T09:38:00.000-07:002008-08-06T09:38:00.000-07:00As soon as a Minister of the Government of Canada ...As soon as a Minister of the Government of Canada holds a view other than that of the lefties in the LPC, that Minister is immediately degraded to a piece of crap by Libloggers.<BR/>This is why Liberals will lose the next election,<BR/>a Total disrespect for their opponents.<BR/>So caught up in the '64% of Canadians didn't vote Conservative', that they fail to see that 70% didn't vote Liberal.<BR/><BR/>Liberals can not put their ear to the ground <BR/>because they insist on keeping their noses in the air. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps a rename: <BR/>Rolling WITH the Tide of Extremism<BR/>is more in keeping with your opinions, <BR/>which you are entitled to.wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03589410224972050999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-11652477008717736952008-08-06T09:06:00.000-07:002008-08-06T09:06:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-67631658952819114062008-08-06T08:53:00.000-07:002008-08-06T08:53:00.000-07:00Johnathon, after you maliciously slagged me and th...Johnathon, after you maliciously slagged me and the memory of my recently departed father, you no longer have any voice on this blog. Crawl back under your rock.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-58516614305201690952008-08-06T07:47:00.000-07:002008-08-06T07:47:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Johnathonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14468885934256262056noreply@blogger.com