tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post6396754571713711345..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: "It Can Either be Jewish or Democratic. It Cannot be Both."The Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-56999100722241585872016-12-30T12:03:00.239-08:002016-12-30T12:03:00.239-08:00You did not get it Toby.
You have missed the secon...You did not get it Toby.<br />You have missed the second part of the sentence: "readers do not want to bring unwanted attention to themselves."<br />A..nonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-62290617672818368752016-12-29T23:00:24.397-08:002016-12-29T23:00:24.397-08:00It's situations like this that make me ask &qu...It's situations like this that make me ask "what have we become?" The Canada of Pierre Trudeau and the Canada of Justin Trudeau bear stark differences. Justin's Canada doesn't seem to have a principle that can't be bought and some of them are offered very cheaply indeed.<br /><br />I've been thinking back to the last Liberal leadership contest and how I was struck by the extent that neoliberalism had taken hold in almost all the candidates. I took my leave from the Liberals during the Ignatieff years when I could no longer pretend that liberalism still had a place in that party.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-14522076605529771082016-12-29T20:21:52.887-08:002016-12-29T20:21:52.887-08:00Indeed, plenty in Ottawa too.
What I really don&...Indeed, plenty in Ottawa too. <br />What I really don't understand is why the NDP is usually so gutless about it (Mulcair is a special case on that--he actually is pro-Israel for personal reasons). I mean, even from an amoral pragmatic perspective, my understanding of public opinion is that more of the public has pro-Palestinian attitudes than votes for the NDP and it's kind of the left half of the population mostly. So, one would think the NDP could gain a few Liberal votes by taking a non-slavish-to-Israel position. Sure, Conservative voters would hate them for it but they already do, so what? But the NDP bosses are always desperately afraid of the section of the party that thinks of Palestinians as people. Svend Robinson always used to get in trouble over it, and even Libby Davies. As I say, I don't really get it.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-28676197248745354532016-12-29T18:14:46.188-08:002016-12-29T18:14:46.188-08:00A..non, Mound, some subjects are so manifest that ...A..non, Mound, some subjects are so manifest that they require no discussion. How can one argue with the premise of this post?<br /><br />Also, this is the season when man are away from their keyboards. <br /><br />Keep up the good work.<br /><br /><br />Tobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-12026792651246814942016-12-29T15:42:20.205-08:002016-12-29T15:42:20.205-08:00I have to assume, A..non, that it's not a disc...I have to assume, A..non, that it's not a discussion most mainstream party faithful welcome. Even the leadership of my party, the Greens, wishes it would go away. Fortunately the membership retained the gist of the troublesome resolution even if it meant holding the BDS movement at arm's length.<br /><br />If I was still a Liberal, I would be deeply troubled by how Trudeau has emulated Harper's Likudnik approach to the Palestinian problem. As I said if you go through the UN General Assembly resolutions on Palestine it's the world versus Israel, Canada and the United States.<br /><br />Our leaders still hail Israel as the only reaL democracy in the Middle East. What kind of democracy holds half its population hostage? Apartheid is antithetical to democracy. I can't help but suspect that, yet again, Trudeau has discarded liberalism for political opportunism. I've pretty much lost any residual respect for Trudeau and his party.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-35288463302698215422016-12-29T14:28:18.377-08:002016-12-29T14:28:18.377-08:00Yes, it should have been said earlier.
"I e...<br />Yes, it should have been said earlier. <br /><br />"I expect there's plenty more in Washington who think roughly the same but don't have the guts to say it." Substitute "Ottawa" for "Washington."The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-83403383158486191882016-12-29T14:28:01.857-08:002016-12-29T14:28:01.857-08:00Mound, curiously your posts about Israeli-Palestin...Mound, curiously your posts about Israeli-Palestinian conflict do not generate much discussion. Either this topic does not warrant readers' attentions or readers do not want to bring unwanted attention to themselves...<br />A..nonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-73269211392918746242016-12-29T10:59:36.944-08:002016-12-29T10:59:36.944-08:00Good for Kerry. I'd have been even more impre...Good for Kerry. I'd have been even more impressed if he hadn't waited until he could do nothing useful and had nothing to lose, but it's something. I expect there's plenty more in Washington who think roughly the same but don't have the guts to say it, even on their way out.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.com