tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post8489033837144224155..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: The F-35 - Bait & Switch - the Verdict Is InThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-55946727307351649302015-03-14T21:51:21.044-07:002015-03-14T21:51:21.044-07:00Anon, I realize you're quite serious. That sa...Anon, I realize you're quite serious. That said, if these guys are correct then the Secretary of Defense is a liar. So too is the published test data. Hmm - do you think this is a Lockheed PR stunt? <br /><br />Just asking, have you read any of the test results or analyses? I have to be honest. When this project began I was all for it. I've flown Lockheed fighters.<br /><br />There has never been a new "generation" fighter that didn't go through a few "beta" products before that technological paradigm was refined into something quite good. This airplane is a beta, nothing more. Its deficiencies weren't even recognized while it was being designed but, then again, that too is normal, almost inevitable.<br /><br />Lockheed got screwed. It thought it had a deal to build at least 800 F-22s and, instead, it got cut off at the 180 mark. That's a huge hit. Suddenly the F-35 morphed into what it was never intended to be, a multi-role fighter.<br /><br />Ask yourself what qualities are needed in a real, multi-role fighter? Look at the great, earlier model fighters. The 35 doesn't add up.<br /><br />Oh well, believe what you like.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-20844379355082676932015-03-14T20:06:03.109-07:002015-03-14T20:06:03.109-07:00http://youtu.be/461ug8Jjn-0
Here is one link wit...http://youtu.be/461ug8Jjn-0<br /> <br />Here is one link with actual pilots covering some of the information I just gave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-72997819087395499172015-03-14T09:18:47.968-07:002015-03-14T09:18:47.968-07:00Even on his best day Bogdan isn't making those...Even on his best day Bogdan isn't making those claims, Anon.<br /><br />Faster? Not hardly. Due to the high-drag, squat frontal aspect of the 35, it is incapable of the sort of speed that matters, supercruise. Go fast means afterburner and with a fuel load limited plane like this that means very limited range. Do you have any information on the speed limitations currently imposed on the 35?<br /><br />Have you read the RAND Corporation report on the F-35's handling (speed, climb, agility)? Apparently not.<br /><br />It turns better, really? Got anything to back that up? The latest report from the Secretary of Defense notes it can't turn fast at speed without incurring wing drop and crashing.<br /><br />Stealthier than the F-22? You do realize that the 35 is frontal aspect only stealth, the very reason the US Navy doesn't find it particularly survivable.<br /><br />Do you recall how Lockheed execs countered this criticism. They said frontal aspect only stealth was enough for a plane intended to go straight into its target and straight back out again. That's not a fighter, it's the profile of a light attack bomber, a modern-day A-6 only without the payload.<br /><br />As for deadlines, Bogdan has been fudging them and the testing program pretty relentlessly.<br /><br />Every airplane is a flying compromise but this one was mortally compromised from the instant the designer's pen hit paper.<br /><br />However, I'm willing to be corrected. Please send me links to the data showing that the Secretary of Defense's report is blatantly false. It sounds like he must be in league with the Commies. The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-72539054354693983042015-03-14T08:47:39.391-07:002015-03-14T08:47:39.391-07:00The F-35 is faster than the counter parts it is re...The F-35 is faster than the counter parts it is replacing when loaded for combat. It turns better than it's counter parts when combat loaded. It may even be stealthier than the F-22. It's subsonic acceleration is better than the counter parts it replaces. Yes the data it uses to detect threats is not yet complete, however it was not scheduled to be so by this time. There is indication that they will meet the deadline as reported by Gen Bogden. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-10778416320440547292015-03-14T00:13:42.043-07:002015-03-14T00:13:42.043-07:00Yeah. It's the F-35 is a money sink for fight...Yeah. It's the F-35 is a money sink for fighting American wars when there is not much opposition. Almost good for ground support. Almost. I suggest we need a flag-waving aircraft and not one that sneaks up on victims and shoots them from far away. What Canada needs is an updated version, homemade (why not?) of the CF-100 with two engines and two pilots that can do long range reconnaissance (sp?) with survivability as well as the ability to punish some. Not more.both.and.each@gmail.comhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14035846377390156294noreply@blogger.com