tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post8591404132702452820..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Shades of GreyThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-34977396889240666552011-05-02T10:28:57.104-07:002011-05-02T10:28:57.104-07:00@Anon5:15. Of course it's perfectly proper to...@Anon5:15. Of course it's perfectly proper to spoil one's vote. What type of democracy would we have if we were obliged to accept someone as the lesser of several evils? That would be a herd mentality, painfully undemocratic.<br /><br />There is a world of difference between attending a poll to spoil one's ballot and simply abstaining. Abstention is indifference to democracy. A spoiled ballot is very much a real vote, a protest vote against the lot. It's our right to do just that when we feel it's necessary.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-24530462614829894702011-05-02T10:23:59.061-07:002011-05-02T10:23:59.061-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-89165711340047774432011-05-02T10:18:59.501-07:002011-05-02T10:18:59.501-07:00@ Atlanta Roofing. I was thinking along the same ...@ Atlanta Roofing. I was thinking along the same lines this morning. What policy initiatives should Layton work to force through with Liberal support? The first thing that came to mind was press freedom in effect the de-corporatizing of the Canadian news media. This entails both concentration of ownership and media cross-ownership. The principle is that a democratic society benefits from the greatest variety of voices and opinions and suffers when that variety is eliminated. Layton could ask the Liberal leader to join in a commission of inquiry into the Canadian media.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-52298741023995867402011-05-02T05:15:33.308-07:002011-05-02T05:15:33.308-07:00Hmmm!! Try what is happening in Newfoundland. At...Hmmm!! Try what is happening in Newfoundland. At the advanced voting stations, people are voting and then drawing a black line through their vote or, tearing the ballot into. I'm not saying it's right or wrong...people have done that. Has it been reported? No!! Word of mouth. CheersAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-41661995953622280132011-05-02T01:43:21.261-07:002011-05-02T01:43:21.261-07:00It has been an exciting election because it has se...It has been an exciting election because it has seemed anything is possible. In fact, it has never been more clear that an election campaign is designed to get a party (re)elected and absolutely NOT to debate policy issues and ideas in the light of day. We need to maintain multi-party choice in Canada and we need more professional journalists shining light in the dark corners.Atlanta Roofinghttp://www.hotfrog.com/Companies/Atlanta-Roofing-Resourcesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-34174920778647126872011-05-01T10:37:58.131-07:002011-05-01T10:37:58.131-07:00This really isn't about making radical change,...This really isn't about making radical change, Anon. It's about starting a process, one that's already well underway in the UK and Europe. It begins by getting timely and accurate information to the public because you'll never get the necessary changes without their support.<br /><br />The people you talk to may not believe in climate change but that is due to the terrible job our governments have done at informing the public and the terrific job the fossil fuelers have done at sowing doubt and confusion.<br /><br />Once you have an adequate level of public awareness you can then start the process of evaluating needs and options.<br /><br />This really isn't as radical as it might seem.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-31940899677902576162011-05-01T10:04:49.948-07:002011-05-01T10:04:49.948-07:00What good would it do the ndp for example if they ...What good would it do the ndp for example if they ran on making radical changes though? They would have no chance in the election, and then we would get no change at all (or change in the opposite direction). Most people I talk to still don't believe in climate change. They want to pay less for gas, and have more highway lanes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-63019862241357273532011-05-01T08:31:34.026-07:002011-05-01T08:31:34.026-07:00Travis, you're right. Corporatism, as we expe...Travis, you're right. Corporatism, as we experience it today, and environmentalism are incompatible. <br /><br />It troubles me that it has become a left/right issue when elsewhere, as in Europe for example, the Right is onside with the climate change issue. Indeed it was Margaret Thatcher who was the first Western leader to sound the alarm on global warming.<br /><br />The "growth and jobs" elixir that has so besotted our politicos of all stripes blocks any serious, effective effort at climate change remediation or even adaptation. It prevents us from developing 21st century approaches to this basket of 21st century challenges.<br /><br />Growth is the needle in the forearm of consumption-driven economics. Our political classes have become addicted to growing our way out of problems. I tend to agree with James Lovelock that our only way out of this is to accept "sustainable retreat" as the way forward. The sad part is that it's a language our political classes don't speak.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47344014655466755412011-05-01T07:55:12.655-07:002011-05-01T07:55:12.655-07:00Before this election started there was no indicati...Before this election started there was no indication that the electorate had any stomach for contemplating serious change. And the sad fact is that had Jack and the NDP run on a platform that sought to actually address climate change, multinational corporate black mail (globalization)etc., we would be witnessing the orange getting crushed.<br /><br />I am afraid that we will need a new party that is willing to champion these hard choices and who is willing to sit at 10% in polls.<br /><br />Thanks for the link.travis fasthttp://www.rppe.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-90557659570656750592011-04-30T18:37:56.890-07:002011-04-30T18:37:56.890-07:00I'm not sure there's a way to vote "f...I'm not sure there's a way to vote "for" a candidate/party that's not based on trust. I don't trust any of them because they don't begin to address my concerns. In other words they strike me as being much more interested in ruling the country than in governing it.<br /><br />"They" really are the only game in town. To them alone do we entrust the resources and authority with which to meet these unwanted but inescapable challenges.<br /><br />I've lived in BC for well more than three decades, long enough to grasp the futility of voting "against" someone. Others, of course, see it differently but it's an admission of a truly shitty slate of parties, leaders and, in many cases, candidates to have to vote strategically.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-53372147415877418282011-04-30T17:54:00.776-07:002011-04-30T17:54:00.776-07:00I really think they have to be careful about what ...I really think they have to be careful about what they campaign on... Harper can't go out and say he wants to create a two tiered health care system, criminalize marijuana possession and lock up every pot head in the country, and bring back capital punishment for example... And a minority government has kept him from a lot of his goals I would imagine. I voted NDP, they are the closest to what I want, and the best choice to defeat the conservatives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-41008999931850592382011-04-30T17:08:48.143-07:002011-04-30T17:08:48.143-07:00One of the best articles I have read .
The truth i...One of the best articles I have read .<br />The truth is out there!<br />The problem is no one is listening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-69729514486679421622011-04-30T13:44:25.202-07:002011-04-30T13:44:25.202-07:00I agree with you that none of the three major lead...I agree with you that none of the three major leaders have a serious vision. I saw that during their interviews with Peter Mansbridge.<br /><br />Harper is a self-centered control freak who wants to rule rather than govern. Michael Ignatieff struck me as an ambitious careerist, someone who could do the job well but would be doing it for his own benefit rather than to serve the nation. Jack Layton gave me much the same feeling, and the way the NDP have shifted towards the center leaves me thinking that he'd be little different from a Liberal Leader.<br /><br />Just my views. Your mileage may vary.<br /><br />But I will be voting strategically, to try to unseat the local CPC candidate. Because Harper is bad for this country. The others may not be good, but they're lesser villains. People we can live with. Harper, on the other hand, is something very different. He makes everyone he's in contact with a little worse, just by contamination.<br /><br />My $0.02. Take it as you willUncommonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09634144780381283790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-58690320540472149572011-04-30T12:41:31.095-07:002011-04-30T12:41:31.095-07:00It really matters that you vote to get rid of Harp...It really matters that you vote to get rid of Harper.. vote against him by voting strategicallyA Eliz.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11088834823455226692noreply@blogger.com