tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post1502031408506644658..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Cassandra Calling - "No Way Out"The Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-58902307908237893742019-09-09T13:14:21.076-07:002019-09-09T13:14:21.076-07:00And so we slip from climate change denial straight...And so we slip from climate change denial straight to "it's impossible to do anything about it." In that case, I'm sure CAPP will say we may as well go out in a blaze of bitumen glory.<br /><br />CapAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-10680046905869868092019-09-09T10:07:49.611-07:002019-09-09T10:07:49.611-07:00Agreed.
And this is the essential action
"ho...Agreed.<br />And this is the essential action <br />"how must we organize ourselves from here on?"<br /><br />all else flows from that (including smaller carbon footprints) <br /><br />Given the current state of, how-must-we-organize-ourselves,<br />(tRump, Bolosarno, Bojo, Modi, Xi, Putin, our own "PM" Freeland, etc etc)<br />it is going to be a tough slog.Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-77459866008500525302019-09-09T09:22:16.282-07:002019-09-09T09:22:16.282-07:00NPoV - what you're describing is the core phil...<br />NPoV - what you're describing is the core philosophy of the Dark Mountain movement that I joined several years ago. It is stated to be for those tired of listening to the lies society tells itself. Its adherents recognize that we're not constituted to effectively thwart catastrophic climate change and yet it remains important to keep fighting - just without fanciful illusions. <br /><br />One of those lies is that climate change is some standalone threat when it's actually a symptom of a more complex and ultimately lethal problem - mankind's failure to find a path to live in sustainable harmony with a seriously overburdened planet. <br /><br />No one is asking the essential questions - how many humans can Earth sustainably support, how much consumption/pollution can the environment bear, how must we organize ourselves from here on in?<br /><br />We are still in the grasp of 18th century economics, 19th century industrialism and 20th century geopolitics, models that served us reasonably well until the 1970s when we first outgrew the planet. Since then they've become a measure of our fatal dysfunction. <br /><br />The real problem is that we fail to acknowledge this basket of existential threats or that, unless we resolve them all, we shall fail to solve any of them. <br /><br />The moral obligation to resist, to fight back, is not diminished by accepting that we're on a path that holds no chance of averting catastrophe. The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-40423166288503935862019-09-09T08:07:10.713-07:002019-09-09T08:07:10.713-07:00Huge pushback from the New-Green-Deal folks on J. ...Huge pushback from the New-Green-Deal folks on J. Franzen New Yorker article.<br /><br />"What If We Stopped Pretending?<br />The climate apocalypse is coming. To prepare for it, we need to admit that we can’t prevent it."<br /><br />https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/what-if-we-stopped-pretending<br /><br />I think most of them did not understand what they read.<br /><br />This is the key passage imo:<br />"In this respect, any movement toward a more just and civil society can now be considered a meaningful climate action. Securing fair elections is a climate action. Combating extreme wealth inequality is a climate action. Shutting down the hate machines on social media is a climate action. Instituting humane immigration policy, advocating for racial and gender equality, promoting respect for laws and their enforcement, supporting a free and independent press, ridding the country of assault weapons—these are all meaningful climate actions. To survive rising temperatures, every system, whether of the natural world or of the human world, will need to be as strong and healthy as we can make it."<br /><br />iow ... be environmentally conscious in action but can the false hope and make the focus on how to share what's left<br />Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-8551432346617296822019-09-09T06:01:38.522-07:002019-09-09T06:01:38.522-07:00.. this is a somewhat (or even worse) shattering p..... this is a somewhat (or even worse) shattering post & read ..<br />Needs a reread.. needs a followup update for moi ..<br />It suggests a complete revamp & rewire - of my entire thought process<br />essentially suggesting we are far far more flucked than I thought..<br />and I already saw our situation as dire to an absurd extreme..<br /><br />Think I will go sit in the garden.. study the gourd plant or gourd convoy<br />that took over while we were in the Turks..<br />see if any rhyme or reason overtakes me<br />or revelation ... or rapturethe salamanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853337802990122289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-36225072149718606262019-09-08T23:16:58.590-07:002019-09-08T23:16:58.590-07:00Anon 5:38. You're obviously fond of simplistic...<br />Anon 5:38. You're obviously fond of simplistic solutions. Circularity is a helpful option but hardly our salvation.<br /><br />First of all, when has there been a time in the history of our species when this was seen as the preferred or aspirational goal? Is it then embraceable by human nature?<br /><br />And, please remind me where we find all the critical-grade stainless steel that can be economically harvested for recycling.<br /><br />You take an oversimplified fact and try to transform that into an argument. I'm not biting.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-73918246276254352072019-09-08T20:04:45.188-07:002019-09-08T20:04:45.188-07:00Very disheartening Mound. On one hand its so disc...Very disheartening Mound. On one hand its so discouraging I don't want to get up in the morning. On the other hand I can't wait to get up and take advantage of the paradise I currently inhabit - before it all goes to hell.<br />What a dilemma!John's aghasthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17373273843457791978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-38723207990074544202019-09-08T17:38:47.345-07:002019-09-08T17:38:47.345-07:00There's always a dude who wants to get famous ...There's always a dude who wants to get famous blowing an off-tune horn<br /><br />We've already extracted enough of every significant resource to last us several magnitudes of population growth . . .<br /><br />https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_economyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78995611886431891862019-09-08T17:34:04.969-07:002019-09-08T17:34:04.969-07:00Entitlement is killing us.
We have to have everyth...Entitlement is killing us.<br />We have to have everything regardless of cost to ourselves or mankind.<br />We have earned it, we deserve it we have always had it are common excuses for inaction.<br />Perhaps the most selfish action we humans can take is that we can procreate with no consequences.<br /><br />https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/human-eggs-grown-lab-fertility-breakthrough-first-time-ivf-development-scientists-edinburgh-a8201001.html<br /><br />TBTrailblazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436709163754934547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78273608456661032972019-09-08T17:23:58.951-07:002019-09-08T17:23:58.951-07:00There's a great deal of truth to your jest, TB...<br />There's a great deal of truth to your jest, TB. I just added a 3-paragraph conclusion to this post that mirrors your lighthearted comment.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-66593916612799520782019-09-08T17:20:45.816-07:002019-09-08T17:20:45.816-07:00And the answer is....
https://www.durexcanada.com...And the answer is....<br /><br />https://www.durexcanada.com/en/products/condoms/?&gclid=CjwKCAjwzdLrBRBiEiwAEHrAYnFahLEo-OMUWKxf9IujYRYre-Yjk5ng8IJqJWwLzWqAkXQSn3CAvRoCoFYQAvD_BwE<br /><br /><br />Guys, we have to keep our willies protected; no offloading!!<br /><br />TBTrailblazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436709163754934547noreply@blogger.com