tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post2160091537558108564..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: When Obama Courted Ho Chi MinhThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-60918634212218986522013-11-16T17:27:21.831-08:002013-11-16T17:27:21.831-08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-67778208863852750462013-10-30T20:00:07.236-07:002013-10-30T20:00:07.236-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-16768670687021470602013-10-20T03:26:26.737-07:002013-10-20T03:26:26.737-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-50876921712568123082013-10-17T00:37:57.923-07:002013-10-17T00:37:57.923-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-26431233009935800232013-09-16T23:56:17.354-07:002013-09-16T23:56:17.354-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-29524281492829299862013-08-24T22:19:25.882-07:002013-08-24T22:19:25.882-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-83507376534401431512013-07-28T20:54:44.374-07:002013-07-28T20:54:44.374-07:00"The man who struggled against the Japanese, ..."The man who struggled against the Japanese, the French and ultimately the Americans..."<br /><br />Was Ho Chi Minh the only man?<br /><br />Struggled against the Japanese? No problem there.<br /><br />Struggled against the French? Now here is where it gets interesting. Ever heard of the Ho-Sainteny Agreement? No?<br /><br />WW II ended in Aug-Sept 1945. In Mar 1946, a mere few months later, Ho Chi Minh and Jean Sainteny made a deal that would insert Viet Nam into the French Union as a semi-autonomous member. Like how Puerto Rico is to the US. The deal also would have France recognize the Viet Minh as legitimate government of all of Viet Nam, never mind the reality back then that the Viet Minh was already well known to be brutal thugs bent on introducing communism into Viet Nam.<br /><br />France was desperate to have any validation of her return to Indochina to reclaim what was lost and this deal was that validation. Why was the deal needed? Because the US (Roosevelt), Russia (Stalin), and China (Chiang Kai-shek) agreed that after the war, Indochina (Viet Nam, Laos, and Cambodia) would be under UN trusteeship with the goal towards full independence.<br /><br />Once French troops were in place, the Viet Minh and France proceeded to slaughter and oppress other Vietnamese Nationalists. Then once the Viet Minh secured their rule in North Vietnam, Ho turned against France and he shrewdly used the immorality of colonialism to hide his partnership with France that brought France back to Viet Nam and to help the Viet Minh commit mass murders of his fellow Viets.<br /><br />Struggled against the Americans? For what? What was the US there for? Oil? Women? Colonialism? The US was there to resist communism. Is that a good thing or a bad thing? But then again, given how you portrayed yourself as a 'progressive' we can be reasonably secure the answer is 'bad'.<br /><br />Just in case you may wonder...I am a Viet who fled in 1975. Just because Ho cited the US Declaration of Independence, that does not mean he believes in the principles lies within. If he does, my grandparents would not have died in the boarding school I grew up in when the communists turned it into a 're-education' camp. You have heard of those, right?<br /><br />"Besides, they could always Google it or look it up on Wikipedia. It's not hard to find."<br /><br />You can use keyword search for 'indochina un trusteeship' and 'ho-sainteny agreement'. It is not that hard to find.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-33677046025066742342013-07-27T13:15:43.603-07:002013-07-27T13:15:43.603-07:00Good point.Good point.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-44440894502242894952013-07-27T12:46:40.989-07:002013-07-27T12:46:40.989-07:00I think if we're talking about the US as amnes...I think if we're talking about the US as amnesiac, it's wrong not to at some point give a shout out to Gore Vidal, coiner of "The United States of Amnesia".Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.com