tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post2451336815004508524..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: When Cognitive Dissonance Becomes Your Default Operating SystemThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-30496298601440118882015-12-19T13:41:53.847-08:002015-12-19T13:41:53.847-08:00I agree, Mound, giving up is wrong. But it's h...I agree, Mound, giving up is wrong. But it's hard not to when people like McPherson lay out the facts. At least we know what we're up against. <br /><br />I've added Dark Mountain to my bookmarks so I will no longer confuse it with the Dark Enlightenment ;-)chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05203633769014796067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47926175595439518042015-12-19T12:08:16.608-08:002015-12-19T12:08:16.608-08:00BC has had a carbon tax and GHG reduction targets ...BC has had a carbon tax and GHG reduction targets since 2008. Gasoline and diesel slaes have not really gone down since then, you can search here:<br /><br />http://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cansim/a26?lang=eng&retrLang=eng&id=4050002&&pattern=&stByVal=1&p1=1&p2=37&tabMode=dataTable&csid=#customizeTab<br /><br />In BC the plan is to grow the economy, keep building bridges, export coal and LNG, etc.Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-68939809246689794352015-12-19T11:15:35.396-08:002015-12-19T11:15:35.396-08:00We experience climate in our closets.
I live in ...We experience climate in our closets. <br /><br />I live in North Vancouver. I own no long underwear. If I lived in Winnipeg I'd have more than one pair. Ditto a parka...no parka here, parka there. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-25290704907907882602015-12-19T11:06:03.834-08:002015-12-19T11:06:03.834-08:00"cognitive dissonance"
Methinks you'..."cognitive dissonance"<br />Methinks you've got it backwards.....<br /><br />The cognitive dissonance is at the retail level:<br />I'm OK. You're OK. Weather is weather and always changes. (ie we do not experience "climate")<br /><br />Short of something like massive/abrupt sea level changes, we are lobsters in a pot. Real action=political suicide for the list you posted.<br /><br />The real question is not so much mitigation and/or reversal. It is (imo) 'Will we attempt to adapt as a species to a radically changed planet while governed collectively/socially or ruled by warlords?'Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-80804350885089686112015-12-19T09:59:11.447-08:002015-12-19T09:59:11.447-08:00Hi, Chris. I've written a couple of posts abou...Hi, Chris. I've written a couple of posts about McPherson and his apocalyptic views. At some level I accept his conclusions yet I can't bring myself to support them. Giving up is wrong. We have to keep hammering away at this and all the associated ills. We're not human if we don't. I understand the internal contradiction. It's why I came to join Dark Mountain. That's a place for those who are tired of the lies society tells itself about our environmental predicament but still choose to fight the good fight.<br /><br />My attitude may change should I live long enough to have to witness death and displacement on a truly massive scale from those most vulnerable parts of our world that are in line to be the first and worst victims of the excesses of the developed world.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-14872277683763636252015-12-19T08:48:32.282-08:002015-12-19T08:48:32.282-08:00Thanks, Mound, I couldn't remember if his firs...Thanks, Mound, I couldn't remember if his first name was Jason or Justin.<br /><br />Yes, I know he didn't mean for that to be public.But, you know maybe he should have. If the scientists actually said what they think and how they feel about it maybe we'd have a better chance of fixing things. The public doesn't understand or care about radiative forcing confidence intervals and the like. But they do understand, "This really smart guy is very scared." Maybe then we'd see some real action but I won't hold my breath.<br /><br />Guy McPherson has done that and been marginalised. I don't know that he's right (and I hope he isn't!) about the near-term extinction of humanity but he makes a very good argument.<br /><br />http://guymcpherson.com/chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05203633769014796067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47918583336263557412015-12-18T22:45:57.412-08:002015-12-18T22:45:57.412-08:00The global elites have no intention of interfering...The global elites have no intention of interfering with the profits, or ending government subsidies, for the fossil fuel industry and the extraction industries. <br /><br />FUture government subsidies will be paid for by carbon taxes..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-62809874680327031372015-12-18T16:43:27.025-08:002015-12-18T16:43:27.025-08:00It's "Thelma and Louise" with a dash...It's "Thelma and Louise" with a dash of "Groundhog Day"The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-33722253757762899172015-12-18T16:14:56.392-08:002015-12-18T16:14:56.392-08:00Mound, best options have been off the table for a ...Mound, best options have been off the table for a while now. We're left with adapting not preventing or even forestalling. <br /><br />Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-48303800759320209832015-12-18T14:50:15.045-08:002015-12-18T14:50:15.045-08:00It is psychology 101.
People do not want to hear t...It is psychology 101.<br />People do not want to hear truth, often a.k.a. "bad news."<br />Impossible to change, save for extreme shock...<br />A..non<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-60280395013140621462015-12-18T14:03:32.080-08:002015-12-18T14:03:32.080-08:00Chris - I have written about a couple of experienc...Chris - I have written about a couple of experiences I've had with climate science types, both of them government scientists. While on the job they're all "we can still do this." It's when they're off the clock and you're having a couple of beers that it becomes "we're so screwed."<br /><br />Jason Box, I'm sure you recall, never intended that remark for public consumption. He inadvertently let that cat out of the bag but he's never denied his conclusion either.<br /><br />It's not easy but it remains important that we continue to fight the good fight even if we have no faith in fairy tale deliverance.<br /><br />I expect we will confront all these challenges, eventually, because they'll find us even if we try to avoid them. What I fear is that, by the time we decide to act, the best options will have been long foreclosed.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-90338669950584645162015-12-18T13:50:33.758-08:002015-12-18T13:50:33.758-08:00Toby, welcome to Nova Scotia:
http://www.cbc.ca/n...Toby, welcome to Nova Scotia:<br /><br />http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-solar-power-not-encouraged-1.3371393chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05203633769014796067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-43673520863318443922015-12-18T13:45:52.092-08:002015-12-18T13:45:52.092-08:00We are, as Dr. Box succinctly put it, fcked.We are, as Dr. Box succinctly put it, fcked.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05203633769014796067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-7425327901895634342015-12-18T13:36:11.326-08:002015-12-18T13:36:11.326-08:00"Deep cuts and VAT bring ruin to UK solar ind..."Deep cuts and VAT bring ruin to UK solar industry"<br /><br />http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_round_up/2986703/deep_cuts_and_vat_bring_ruin_to_uk_solar_industry.htmlTobynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-22580958984324147472015-12-18T13:12:23.164-08:002015-12-18T13:12:23.164-08:00I so wish that wasn't true, Dana.<br />I so wish that wasn't true, Dana.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4795026842076759422015-12-18T11:50:40.102-08:002015-12-18T11:50:40.102-08:00Evolutionary dead end. Evolutionary dead end. Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12465953801145126160noreply@blogger.com