tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post2942701394080613678..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Syria - A Cautionary Message from Gwynne DyerThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-74843620558263690312013-08-27T22:49:08.245-07:002013-08-27T22:49:08.245-07:00Hi Troy. It's hard to argue with Pushkov'...Hi Troy. It's hard to argue with Pushkov's logic. At times it feels as though the White House is getting baited into a war. The rebels, especially the Islamist faction, would have little to lose and so much to gain by goading the West into war on Assad.<br /><br />The U.S. played into al Qaeda's hand by invading Iraq. Now it wants to risk repeating that blunder?The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-35015269231256623082013-08-27T22:18:53.357-07:002013-08-27T22:18:53.357-07:00The Christian Science Monitor
""To us, i...<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2013/0826/As-world-prepares-to-act-on-Syria-Russia-scrambles-to-apply-brake" rel="nofollow">The Christian Science Monitor</a><br />""To us, it looks as though [George W.] Bush, [Dick] Cheney and [Donald] Rumsfeld never left the White House," says Alexei Pushkov, chair of the State Duma's international affairs committee.<br /><br />"It's basically the same policy, as if US leaders had learned nothing and forgotten nothing in the past decade. They want to topple foreign leaders they regard as adversaries, without even making the most basic calculations of the consequences. An intervention in Syria will only enlarge the area of instability in the Middle East and expand the scope of terrorist activity. I am at a complete loss to understand what the US thinks it is doing," he says."<br /><br />Russia watches the USA, baffled and alarmed.Troyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10759047914577194212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-32742582580243231372013-08-27T13:33:32.548-07:002013-08-27T13:33:32.548-07:00" Do we really want to help them take over th...<i>" Do we really want to help them take over that close to Israel?"</i><br /><br />I guess it would upset Bibi the Butcher, but myself? not so much! Someone (maybe you MOS) pointed out that Zion wouldn't be happy until their eastward expansion reached the South China Sea - seems accurate to this observer. <br /><br />What a state of affairs, the USA is run for the benefit of Israel and Canada is China's bitch!kootcoothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11344208424209840730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-84975076933455810312013-08-27T13:24:34.128-07:002013-08-27T13:24:34.128-07:00Our old friend ever helpful.
http://www.zerohedge....Our old friend ever helpful.<br />http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-27/meet-saudi-arabias-bandar-bin-sultan-puppetmaster-behind-syrian-warStevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-27641210543845047962013-08-27T13:11:36.651-07:002013-08-27T13:11:36.651-07:00Steve, we could have used that sort of clear-heade...Steve, we could have used that sort of clear-headed thinking back in 1920 when Britain's Colonial Secretary directed the use of chlorine gas on Kurdish Iraqi villages where the elders were tardy on paying their taxes. That Colonial Secretary was none other than Winston Spencer Churchill who castigated opposition and government MPs who thought the practice barbarous.<br /><br />Churchill even ordered the RAF to develop chemical gas bombs so the army wouldn't have to go to all the expense and bother of bring field artillery into range of those Kurdish villages. The RAF, to their credit, kept coming up with a series of supposed technical setbacks.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-24740886597887762442013-08-27T12:59:34.211-07:002013-08-27T12:59:34.211-07:00http://canadiantrends.blogspot.ca/2013/08/syria-li...http://canadiantrends.blogspot.ca/2013/08/syria-link-collection.html<br /><br />docconner: Yes, The Iran/Iraq stuff.. hmm, lets see - from my link collection above:<br /><br />"US gave Saddam blessing to use toxins against Iranians<br /><br />Experienced Arabic linguist Rick Francona, who worked for both the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), shared that the first time he had proof of Iraq using toxins against Iranians was in 1984, while he was serving as the US Air attaché in Amman, Jordan. He had solid proof that Iraqis had used Tabun nerve agent (GA) against Iranian troops advancing in southern Iraq. <br /><br />It has also been revealed that Saddam Hussein’s military industrial complex could not produce shells with toxic chemical substances itself and was heavily dependent on foreign equipment, with Italy been mentioned as one of the sources for the special equipment."<br /><br />""Military Intervention In Syria", US Training "Rebels" Since 2011 And The Complete Grand Plan - The March 2012 Leak"<br /><br />As for Libya, lets see. Right before our "intervention" Libya stated it would be cutting Europe off from oil and would no longer be trading with the USD. The "rebels" came in and the first thing they did even before the government was disposed was setup a western compatible oil co. and central bank. Today our oil companies are struggling to keep the port open as factions at war keep shutting them down. Peace at last.<br /><br />And in Syria? August 5th: Syria Bans Use of U.S. Dollars Amid Hyperinflation<br /><br />Maybe "bad stuff happens more often" because NATO makes it happen. The violence in Syria would have been over long ago if we didn't increase our support to the foreign al-Qaeda terrorists every time they started losing ground. Your support of "military intervention" is exactly what all of this is for, to gain public popularity after a decade of the "war on terror" so that we can help the very terrorists that we're so scared of that we have to curtail and destroy our "freedom" here at home.<br /><br />It's pretty simple, either you support the national sovereignty of Syria, or you support al-Qaeda terrorists. pick one.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15473265775588031435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-38956843072568833712013-08-27T12:28:43.106-07:002013-08-27T12:28:43.106-07:00If there was a gas attack the people responsible m...If there was a gas attack the people responsible must face justice. Other than that tread lightly.<br />http://thinkingaboot.blogspot.ca/2013/08/whats-going-on-in-syria.html<br /><br />Its interesting Dywer is person non grata in North America.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14162783936999869984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-34547102911274313832013-08-27T12:12:36.153-07:002013-08-27T12:12:36.153-07:00Really, doc? How has that worked out so far? And...Really, doc? How has that worked out so far? And why have you concluded that the gas was Assad's work, not al Qaeda's? Do you think we should maybe clarify that before we decide who to bomb? <br /><br />Chemical weapons experts have been stumped by the photos of the dead. Most of the bodies don't show the sort of signs associated with either choking or nerve agents. That led them to speculate that maybe what was unleashed was very old, degraded stuff - not the more lethal sort of chemicals Assad would have at his disposal.<br /><br />As Dyer argues, if we topple Assad, watch for Syria to fall to Islamist radicals. Our bombing campaign in Libya helped al Qaeda get established in northwestern Africa. Do we really want to help them take over that close to Israel?<br /><br />You might want to think this through again, doc.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-35652161579869854142013-08-27T11:44:12.553-07:002013-08-27T11:44:12.553-07:00I think knowing you could be subject to a massive ...I think knowing you could be subject to a massive bombing campaign by a superpower would effect the decision making of a dictator, even if they care nothing about the lives of their own people.doconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04941265860606353518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-12570858455455323862013-08-27T11:37:01.574-07:002013-08-27T11:37:01.574-07:00Yes they can, Owen. Yes the can - and do.
Do you...Yes they can, Owen. Yes the can - and do.<br /><br />Do you really think they prevent bad stuff from happening, Doc? Really?The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-5493322560795490952013-08-27T11:16:07.953-07:002013-08-27T11:16:07.953-07:00If they don't step up, bad stuff could happen ...If they don't step up, bad stuff could happen more often.<br /><br />People who are worried about the Middle East now should remember the 70s and 80s with the Lebanon civil war, the Iran-Iraq war...doconnorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04941265860606353518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-36054119843154381072013-08-27T11:12:04.626-07:002013-08-27T11:12:04.626-07:00Leaders of great powers can still act like little ...Leaders of great powers can still act like little boys.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.com