tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post3994482960520776339..comments2024-03-16T19:58:56.871-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Framing Global WarmingThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47038927570266690972007-12-12T23:39:00.000-08:002007-12-12T23:39:00.000-08:00I totally agree, Mr. Huggan. Thanks for the comme...I totally agree, Mr. Huggan. Thanks for the comments.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-68034373825098977052007-12-12T22:55:00.000-08:002007-12-12T22:55:00.000-08:00Actually, alw, there are some big economic gains i...Actually, alw, there are some big economic gains in the short term from some strategies. Google around for B.Clinton's 1998 six part plan (I'd link it but this computer is about to crash). Things like paying low income families for green appliances, building insulation, recoup investment within two or three years (big oil/coal are the main losers and lobby blocks).<BR/>Over a period of 1-3 decades, infrastructure/education investments in growing sectors like wind turbine manufacturing facilities (and technicians/engineers) and LEED buildings, recoup construction costs.<BR/>Over a multi-generational time-frame, pretty much any green investment doubles the rate of growth of other investments, since all green investments (plz don't count corn ethanol subsidies or fertilizer cost increases) function to keep hundreds of millions to billions of labourers from starving or thirsting to death. Almost as importantly, the reduced terrorist incidence in a green world will prevent nations from over-spending on security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-20905001046378787852007-12-12T11:35:00.000-08:002007-12-12T11:35:00.000-08:00No, I'm not saying that at all. Of course there w...No, I'm not saying that at all. Of course there will be economic costs in combatting climate change just as we have reaped great economic benefits in the process of creating AGW. I want you to look past the economic wall to the people for whom these fine points are irrelevant. Look at those who are facing drought, famine, displacement, resource wars, and many other threats yet who gained nothing and contributed nothing in creating AGW. Frame the global warming debate in the context of how many of these people we're going to visit with its consequences and how severe those consequences will be allowed to become. Do you think we have the right to do that?The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78663093942601362872007-12-12T10:22:00.000-08:002007-12-12T10:22:00.000-08:00I don't understand what you're arguing - are you s...I don't understand what you're arguing - are you saying there is no economic cost involved in combatting climate change?ALWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875223933170574566noreply@blogger.com