tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post5304645241740804450..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: You Elected Doug Ford. Don't Criticize Electoral Reform.The Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-24827065429425079922018-11-06T10:31:54.099-08:002018-11-06T10:31:54.099-08:001:15...I did not fall for it at all. I'm a ver...1:15...I did not fall for it at all. I'm a very polite person unless severely provoked. Anyong<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4070998667115467392018-11-06T09:50:29.069-08:002018-11-06T09:50:29.069-08:00"once we’ve made the move away from FPTP.&quo..."once we’ve made the move away from FPTP."<br /><br />But who knows when that will be? The Electoral Reform Society in Britain has been bungling electoral reform since 1890! Fair Vote Canada still has another century before they don't realize they have no idea what they're doing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-15421575424274391922018-11-06T09:22:05.491-08:002018-11-06T09:22:05.491-08:00Some detractors of any type of PR are convinced th...Some detractors of any type of PR are convinced that we’re better off with majority government, even when it’s false. Others on both sides of the question don’t realize that minority governments and coalitions will be a frequent result once we’ve made the move away from FPTP.John B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-73832759872607469182018-11-06T07:23:18.250-08:002018-11-06T07:23:18.250-08:00Looks like another polarized electoral-reform refe...Looks like another polarized electoral-reform referendum has bitten the dust. <br /><br />Why would ranked ballots not even be on the goddamn ballot? It's a moderate form of electoral reform. It just ensures representatives are elected with a majority of the vote. I.e., democratically. You'd think the people should have the right to vote for it.<br /><br />But of course, this is Canada. People don't have the right to vote for anything. Like the former Soviet Union, elections are just for show.<br /><br />I bet the Fake News media is really working its magic in BC. <br /><br />I remember back in 2007 when the "progressive" Star waged a war on a fake PR referendum in ON. (60% win threshold with no for/against campaign.)<br /><br />Then in 2016 they also killed Trudeau's attempt to legislate ranked ballots directly (or some form of compromise - which the Dippers had no interest in.) They said ranked ballots were "DOA" because they would put the Liberals in power for all eternity! (I kid you not!)<br /><br />Canada's a nice place to visit. Nice little British colony. But I wouldn't want to live here! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-26413913290610099242018-11-05T21:04:18.657-08:002018-11-05T21:04:18.657-08:00It's a weak argument, scaremongering actually....It's a weak argument, scaremongering actually.<br /><br />That's why the Nazi's have figured out their best path to any kind of power is by infiltrating existing main stream right wing parties.<br /><br />Nazi Parties in Canada don't even garner enough votes for Official Party Status and the Campaign rebates.Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-85871036564473369712018-11-05T20:34:46.390-08:002018-11-05T20:34:46.390-08:00One popular argument for retaining FPTP is that fr...One popular argument for retaining FPTP is that fringe parties such as Neo Nazis and such will have a chance to gain seats with PRep.<br />I argue that having P Rep will let us see those fringe parties ; they will not be hidden as they re now within our mainstream political parties.<br />Jason Kenny comes to mind with his Nazi supporters!<br /><br />TB<br /> Trailblazerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436709163754934547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-69724190671496833962018-11-05T16:21:28.624-08:002018-11-05T16:21:28.624-08:00That's incredibly naive, Ottlib. A method of v...That's incredibly naive, Ottlib. A method of voting devised for a two-party reality is not just as democratic as a system of voting for a multi-party reality. That's how a two-party voting system almost guarantees false majority government in which less than two out of five voters decide who will "rule" - not govern, but rule - over the nation for a term in office.<br /><br />Democracy is based on the informed consent of the electorate. That consent does not exist in a false majority government.<br /><br />Trudeau got his false majority and he won it on the strength of a bucket of campaign lies - First Nations consultation, 'social licence,' electoral reform, purging the corrupt National Energy Board. By saying what voters needed to hear he took under 40 per cent of the vote and then, once installed, he wasted no time in breaking one solemn election promise after another. That's "ruling," not governing and it's an abuse of democracy.<br /><br />So, Ottlib, your arguments are empty.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-33507644994980004752018-11-05T16:13:15.540-08:002018-11-05T16:13:15.540-08:00One of the constants in the universe is politician...One of the constants in the universe is politicians and political parties will sell out their principles, their constituents and their souls for the chance at power. That is a simple fact regardless of what method is used to elect them. To assume that PR voting methods would automatically lead to accelerated action to combat climate change and global warming is rather naive. <br /><br />No method of voting is more democratic than another and no method of voting produces governments that are more responsive to their citizens than others. Politicians are going to what politicians do every time.ottlibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12695135535019042279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-2157110451495130812018-11-05T13:51:37.436-08:002018-11-05T13:51:37.436-08:00Let me put it this way, Anyong. I can't recall...<br />Let me put it this way, Anyong. I can't recall the last time I saw that many straw men lined up and knocked down. Believe what you like. Whoever threw that together, and they were skillful, know that some people will fall for anything, especially if it appeals to their emotions. Great way to circumvent facts.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-63956516550102242632018-11-05T12:56:39.184-08:002018-11-05T12:56:39.184-08:00This has nothing to do with you blog. However, w...This has nothing to do with you blog. However, what is thought about the following....https://youtu.be/THG8VTeEfUM Anyong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com