tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post56565188874832124..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: "A Risk Any Sane Person Would Seek to Drastically Reduce"The Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-3212863670769531122011-06-02T06:15:45.909-07:002011-06-02T06:15:45.909-07:00Well put HIE. It is indeed the "boiling frog...Well put HIE. It is indeed the "boiling frog" syndrome. Jared Diamond and others have shown us that earlier civilizations fell extinct by deliberately ignoring forewarnings. Those were strictly regional or isolated situations such as the Mayans and the Easter Islanders but, this time, we're poised to do much the same thing on a global scale.<br /><br />Although, as Gwynne Dyer aptly puts it in his book "Climate Wars," it won't be the impacts of heating that will take down the West, but war.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-16899699226991505382011-06-01T23:13:43.209-07:002011-06-01T23:13:43.209-07:00From all that I have read, a 2 degree C rise would...From all that I have read, a 2 degree C rise would make most of the planet too hot to support agriculture, and it was chosen several years ago, before the full impacts were understood, as a reasonable attainable level. IIRC, 2 degrees C correlates to 450 ppm.<br />Here are some of the problems:<br />We (planet) are already at or have just passed the carrying capacity based on arable land and fossil fuels. This means disruptions in the weather or in fuel/fertilizer will send significant populations into famine. With last year’s wheat harvest destructions in Australia and Russia, and this year’s disaster, which is still unfolding, in the American Midwest, more people will face food insecurity this year.<br />Dmitry Orlov characterized excess deaths (mortality above the average rates for a cohort): Unless you work in a morgue, you don’t see it as it happens, but one year you go to a class reunion and you realize many of your classmates are gone.<br />So, we might not even see the excess deaths until several years after the fact just as we could not see peak oil when it occurred in 2005, but only the effect on the economy/housing market/debt system in 2008.<br />All this from just one half a degree (F) warming.<br />There is the problem of cascading effects. When one system breaks, the ones dependent on it may also break. We do not know how many instances of death via starvation this will cause.<br />At some point, the non-linear effects will kick in. Take sea level rise. When the wet process of glacier disintegration accelerates, then this previously unstipulated cause of sea level rise (because scientists do not know how to quantify it, they do not include it in their calculations) becomes a major factor. Hundreds millions more displaced onto non-arable land.<br />It just gets worsened and worsened.<br />So, all the dismal projections are based on linear effects, but the larger non-linear effects are not figured in because we do not know how to do so.Home Inspector Experthttp://homeinspectionmarketingcenter.com/establish-yourself-as-the-go-to-expert/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-64190084958975110342011-06-01T20:37:33.716-07:002011-06-01T20:37:33.716-07:00Yes, of course the climate has changed in the past...Yes, of course the climate has changed in the past and each change has had specific causes. What is evident now, is the the current period of warming is being caused by human activity, primarily the burning of fossil fuels and that it will continue to get worse if we carry on the way we are. Unfortunately, some people will always deny warning signs, which is why human history is full of the misery of war, famine and collapsed civilizations.Home Inspector Traininghttp://HomeInspectionMarketingCenter.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4177207259916174412011-05-30T13:53:05.989-07:002011-05-30T13:53:05.989-07:00Unlike Germany, Japan hasn't halted its reacto...Unlike Germany, Japan hasn't halted its reactor program. Germany is exiting Nuclear power, Japan isn't.crfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726414637021391906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-57711831464408010512011-05-30T09:35:05.351-07:002011-05-30T09:35:05.351-07:00Canada has no will to even try and cut emissions. ...Canada has no will to even try and cut emissions. Harper is in favor, of the Alberta dirty tar sands. Greed comes first, and corruption pays very well, especially at the top of the food chain. Gas and oil company's, pay out a lot of money, to the politician that favors them the most.<br /><br />The eco damage from the dirty tar sands, can never be reversed. There will be no renewable energy programs, until the last drop of oil, gas and, the last lump of coal is gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com