tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post6247512025980988032..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: Eviscerating The Bitumen BullshitThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-20589639856510829392019-05-28T10:57:54.524-07:002019-05-28T10:57:54.524-07:00The City of Medicine Hat was told not to go the ro...The City of Medicine Hat was told not to go the route they went. But to use Solar directly from the Sun. It was not a viable project from the beginning as there isn't enough rain fall in the Medicine Hat area. The South Saskatchewan River is the lowest ever seen. Now the city has to provide water for the huge Cannabis Green Houses. One-eighth of an acre (50 feet by 100 feet with 50 cannabis plants) uses 24,000 gallons of water ...a million-square-foot greenhouse or 21 football fields in Medicine Hat is 60% exempt from property tax with 30 million dollar investment subsidy. The City had to save money from somewhere while property taxes have increased. Who is paying for this venture? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-77097490468511363662019-05-28T04:43:22.246-07:002019-05-28T04:43:22.246-07:00.. let's see how long it takes me to type
'..... let's see how long it takes me to type<br />'reference or source doc title - or direct web link validating or supporting this ?'<br />OK.. that took about 10 seconds - I should know, I type it approx 5-10 times daily in comments, responses on blogs or 'the news' or on Twitter or Facebook. Laughably I never got a response from Licia Corbella, Ezra Levant Andrew Scheer or Justin Trudeau. Nor did Peter Kent, Joe Oliver, Bill Morneau, Lisa Raitt get back to me. I have Doug Ford's 'private' cel phone number but I'm so saturated by the flow of bullshit I don't volunteer anymore to have my leg pissed on<br /><br />I maintain, a Grade Five primary school class could as class environmental project or geography lesson, create more logical & factual documents for public consumption regarding ENERGY EXTRACTION IN CANADA<br /><br />'Even last year, when discounts really hit hard, the price of Canadian heavy oil in Houston often traded at a premium to West Texas Intermediate..' (schoolkids - prove or disprove please ?)<br /><br />Now I may have to inquire from Mr Nikiforuk who I trust implicitly, or Andrew Leach, or Mound.. as that seems more like a typo or unedited sentence.. For one its too general. There are lots of 'heavy oils' - just as there are lots of blends of dilbit, synbit etc. But I find it hard to believe a heavy oil sold at higher price than West Texas Intermediate.. a light sweet oil.. indeed the North American benchmark oil. If I saw the two corresponding dated price charts & had a smidgen of info re the seller and the buyer.. or 'trend' - I could be convinced. But this troublesome inclusion seems poorly aimed at the heart of the whole 'unfairly discounted Canadian oil' hue and cry of Jason Kenney, Andrew Scheer.. and Justin Trudeau just plays it like a fiddle.. with the whole fantasy of 'getting all that wealth to Asia' via pipeline and supertankers.. You know - to quash the 'unfair discount' eh.. you just stuff a diluted bitumin blend like WCS (Western Canada Select) into a heated pipeline to Burnaby BC, shove it via tugboats, from the dock in supertankers and poof pang 1 - 2 - 3 it turns into North Sea Brent benchmark sweet oil.. while enroute - caloo callay hellalujah amen !!!!<br /><br />School kids would decimate this .. <br /><br />I ranted in the past, I will rant in the future - calling for responsible journalism, responsive non partisan political governance and public servants, a hasty exit of religious dogma and nonsense from politics, and the exclusion of $ dollars & money $ from elections & public service.. plus the hasty end (plus investigation) of related polls and electoral databases funded by taxpayers.<br /><br />Here's a scenario or two to consider.. Imagine a town hall, regarding Energy Extraction, televised live, with hundreds of Grade Eight students, as the live audience and showrunners. The contestants uh, Justin Trudeau, Andrew Scheer, Jason Kenney, Ms May. Sixteen sealed envelopes. Each guest opens, reads aloud and responds to the question or invitation to explain.. of four envelopes during the event. Its random of course. Topics set by the students after they have completed related projects. The restricting, even frightening payoff is - all 16 responses will be fact checked by thousands of Canadian schoolchildren.. and published ... well, hell.. that opens up the field of opportunity !! It also opens a yawning abyss. Of course, those 'public servants' could always resort to The Harper Closet Defense.. 'I know nothing of these matters' .. 'not on our radar' ..<br /><br />the salamanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853337802990122289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-82710694645420210672019-05-27T18:25:38.537-07:002019-05-27T18:25:38.537-07:00BM,
Yup, double yup.
And those tankers burn bunk...BM,<br /><br />Yup, double yup.<br /><br />And those tankers burn bunker fuel, and the Gulf Coast ones are hauling “Alberta” gas made from dilbit.<br /><br />The energy savings/carbon reduction from getting Alberta gas, from Alberta, directly, would be huge.Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-25629904815350364402019-05-27T17:57:18.812-07:002019-05-27T17:57:18.812-07:00Good rebuttals of the petro state BS all our "...Good rebuttals of the petro state BS all our "leaders" are in thrall to, no matter what they say. I think based on the NEB stats, tarsands production has actually gone up by over 50% since 2010, which is even worse than the author states. Over 20% while Notley lied her head off while in power.<br /><br />Of course, Canada is the number one secret society. Compared to even the UK, we are kept like mushrooms, Vitamin claims are hardly disputed by the dipshitz at Health Canada as CBC Marketplace showed - consumer protection is virtually non-existent. So why would we expect the Feds to be open to the public on other files? We are used to living by calling old wives' tales, myths and legends fact. And nobody knows bugger all about anything, May included on some points.<br /><br />Nova Scotia gets two-thirds of its gasoline by tanker from US Gulf refineries. The other third comes from the Irving refinery in New Brunswick; they cannot process dilbit, and were merely going to be a tidewater export base for it for deliveries by original Energy East. The port was built but is sitting there in mothballs in Saint John while Irving refuses to pay property taxes on it. Even gasoline from the EU gets imported in exchange for surplus diesel through Montreal. To find these things out, you have to dig through dozens of incredibly badly organized Fed NEB and provincial web pages. There are no nice summary pages of obvious info. Nobody cares - or they do care and deliberately miss the point. Most government things are not well publicized. So it's easy to get hold of the wrong end of the stick, especially as the oil companies feel no need to be more public - they're mostly foreigners anyway, feeding off our resources like pigs at the trough and then refusing to pay royalties of any value. And our politicians cheer at the "investment" where we give away our public resources for bugger all.<br /><br />What we need in NS is Alberta gasoline, because there is no refinery capacity here whatsoever, which is why the arrangements we have are the way they are.<br /><br />I have read more clacking tongue horse manure from people who know bugger all about the details of the oil industry in our country, because they haven't learned it. And it's not all their fault, as I've said. The info is hidden and requires extraction. So Kenney can go off on his pie-in-the-sky delusions, and he's probably misinformed as well, which allows drawing of false conclusions very few will dispute other than in a general way. We're stats starved. Even dilbit is referred to as heavy oil as a childish disguise in Fed documents.<br /><br />@ rumleyfips, I live in the same province as you and I'd bet you had no idea where our gasoline is sourced, but I spend far less time eulogizing Twinkletoes JT on Montreal Simon. You never supported the Greens, I'd bet, and now you have invented the perfect excuse for rejecting May - in your mind. It's a free world, just don't blow smoke my way and expect no response. You know MoS is a Green, so you decide to come in and try and wreck things and then get your facts wrong. Can see right through you.<br /><br />BMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-33369558244006814642019-05-27T16:54:13.823-07:002019-05-27T16:54:13.823-07:00Canada imports oil and finished products.
Canada ...Canada imports oil and finished products.<br /><br />Canada exports oil, heavy oil and dilbit, ( which is not oil).<br /><br />If Alberta kept production at the current rate of tarsands extraction, refined on site, the petcoke could be safely sequester in the tarsands pits, there would be no need for explosive dilutient, existing pilelines and railcars would easily handle the volumes of distributed finished product, Alberta would get premium prices for the product, Canada could stop importing oil, and Canada would probably stop exporting oil.<br /><br />Most of Alberta’s crude and tarsands goes south. A small amount comes back as refined product.<br /><br />May’s Plan, a variation on a NEP would actually reduce tarsands, raise Alberta jobs and revinues, shut down imports of less “ethical” oil, reduce emissions, and protect Canadians and the industry from “oil shocks” while we transition to a greener economy.Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-15737514820273213032019-05-27T15:45:52.295-07:002019-05-27T15:45:52.295-07:00Expanding production of the filthiest petro known ...Expanding production of the filthiest petro known , no matter where refined, is hardly green. I have voted green ( no local candidate last time but May has driven me away.rumleyfipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03346146988416679423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-26091732524164272562019-05-27T14:12:37.814-07:002019-05-27T14:12:37.814-07:00
Thanks, Jay.<br />Thanks, Jay.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-52444342555324712992019-05-27T14:00:59.825-07:002019-05-27T14:00:59.825-07:00It’s a thermal solar plant. Reflectors heat water,...It’s a thermal solar plant. Reflectors heat water, most of the steam is used for heat, some is used to make electricity.<br /><br />The City has decided it’s cheaper to buy electricity and natural gas, than to continue to operate the facility.<br /><br />For now, it’s being mothballed and maintained.<br /><br />Were someone who needs a large amount of heat or steam to locate in Medicine Hat, (greenhouses?), then the City has said they would make the plant available.Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-47431248115802098132019-05-27T13:47:31.301-07:002019-05-27T13:47:31.301-07:001:11 They can't or can..... too do better in M...1:11 They can't or can..... too do better in Medicine Hat....they have 330 days of sunshine every year and the temp is much higher year round than Calgary. There are many homes in Medicine Hat owned by people who have solar. They produce more than they can use. But, the City of M.H. does not allow the buying of extra energy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-22007036549414270462019-05-27T13:11:33.602-07:002019-05-27T13:11:33.602-07:00Anon, if they can produce cheap solar energy in dr...<br />Anon, if they can produce cheap solar energy in dreary, overcast Germany, it's impossible to believe they can't do far better in Medicine Hat.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78300158290458429692019-05-27T13:02:30.918-07:002019-05-27T13:02:30.918-07:00Medicine Hat just closed down its solar panel farm...Medicine Hat just closed down its solar panel farm. It wasn't making enough energy. What a pile of crap that is. Everywhere there is a Con Government, there is that kind of misleading statements. Why hasn't the Municipality sent a delegation to China to observe and learn how China is making solar it's number one energy use in that country. All these people do is continually fart through their brains. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-64144302037787647962019-05-27T12:31:37.084-07:002019-05-27T12:31:37.084-07:00
She wants it refined in Alberta.<br />She wants it refined in Alberta.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-35603020502193492212019-05-27T11:52:43.829-07:002019-05-27T11:52:43.829-07:00Elizabeth May now wants me to use Alberta bitumen ...Elizabeth May now wants me to use Alberta bitumen in Nova Scotia. It looks like she now supports Energy East, a project I , along with millions of Canadians , oppose. There go her votes in Ontario, Nova Scotia and especially Quebec.rumleyfipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03346146988416679423noreply@blogger.com