tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post7524143443490940513..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: More Thoughts on Trump and the Inevitability of Climate ChangeThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-3234009535571403242018-10-03T14:08:31.398-07:002018-10-03T14:08:31.398-07:00Seems to me if the position is, we're on track...Seems to me if the position is, we're on track for 4 degrees, and this is going to cause catastrophe and death, and the people who stalled until we ended up this way now want to continue doing the same thing--that is, they wilfully created this disaster which will impoverish and kill millions, perhaps billions, of people and they propose to keep doing it--then OK, if we accept that it's too late to do anything useful (much the way after someone murders someone, it's too late to bring the victim back to life), then what remains is punishment for the crime. I think for that level of mass murder, everyone complicit should be in line for life sentences and confiscation of all their possessions, which are the proceeds of crime.<br />If they are showing no remorse, as in people who admit the crime and propose to keep on compounding it with continued ramping up of fossil fuel use, I think the death penalty is reasonable.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-61263364587106824192018-10-02T12:54:00.837-07:002018-10-02T12:54:00.837-07:00How to adapt to the end of the world.
https://ww...How to adapt to the end of the world. <br /><br />https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-26/new-climate-debate-how-to-adapt-to-the-end-of-the-worldDeacon Jesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13509149236511255564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-17854123332118621312018-10-02T06:50:56.708-07:002018-10-02T06:50:56.708-07:00Found a better, Canadian (but not MSM) review from...Found a better, Canadian (but not MSM) review from April:<br />https://www.straight.com/arts/1056161/bc-authors-am-johal-matt-hern-elizabeth-woodworth-and-peter-carter-pioneer-new<br /><br />Another interesting concept. Rising (parts of) earth from melting ice:<br />https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/01/cities-sink-sea-first-earth-submerge-coastline?CMP=share_btn_tw<br />Northern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4966091132004700092018-10-02T06:23:47.341-07:002018-10-02T06:23:47.341-07:00Funny how the Guardian covers this Canadian focuss...Funny how the Guardian covers this Canadian focussed climate story.<br /><br />And I am thinking the reviewer and headline writer did a poor job in capturing the message.<br /><br />https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/02/save-us-the-smugness-over-2018s-heatwaves-environmentalistsNorthern PoVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04670080478290108536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-79135312581628962152018-10-01T11:01:34.143-07:002018-10-01T11:01:34.143-07:00Sal, interesting that you touch on religion. In th...<br />Sal, interesting that you touch on religion. In the next week or two I'll be taking an online course on the topic of religion and conflict presented by the University of Groningen.<br /><br />I've long held the opinion that the Abrahamic religions are drawn into fundamentalism, particularly by slavish adherence and radical interpretation of the Old Testament and on into the Christian Bible and the Muslim Koran.<br /><br />We shall see what the educated folks think.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-64843275661548175822018-10-01T10:53:57.108-07:002018-10-01T10:53:57.108-07:00@ Owen, John and Chris. Yes this is depressing but...<br />@ Owen, John and Chris. Yes this is depressing but that's inevitable in any discussion of these almost incomprehensible issues. We are in completely uncharted waters, full of shoals and with the wind rising.<br /><br />I'm with Chris. My position has been that we may no longer be capable of affording future generations a safe and secure life. How bad it will be is beyond any accurate assessment at this point. What we do know is that if we continue doing what brought us to where we are today we will make their lives much harder and more dangerous than need be. We have to stop serving our own needs and leaving them to pick up the tab. The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-25844602806515776812018-10-01T05:56:30.875-07:002018-10-01T05:56:30.875-07:00.. Population .. on a finite planet with finite re..... Population .. on a finite planet with finite resources and capability to support life (water - soil - air - sunlight - species) Somewhere in my simplistic analysis or equation I need to fit in at least two other things. Common sense AND Religion (or is it Common Sense versus Religion ?) Another ingredient is Geography ie where the ever growing Population tends to congregate (or migrate to). That brings in other requirements. Like fuel for heat, or species (like fish) to eat. A growing season comes in handy. Damn but we could go back to the Iroquois & the Hurons lr the west coast tribes and the salmon - before whitey showed up. You know, before the time of Pocahontas and Raleigh.. <br /><br />Yes, times have changed.. every Population now knows what other Populations are up to.. (cel phones & internet) and yet another ingredient comes into the big picture.. OK .. two more. Ignorance and Greed ! The Ignorance I refer to is lack of comprehension due to outdated knowlege or being isolated - I am not talking about Donald Trump or Ezra Levant type Ignorance, as they have no excuse. Yet I saw video of approaching tsunami tidal waves from the Indonesian earthquake & on the beach, people were still setting up stalls for a beach festival. Greed of course has benchmarks & those who raise the bar - Trump and his entire family, or the Koch brothers or the Kardashians will do for now.. and to me that's the other ignorance.. or that just crudity or self centered viciousness ? Now everyone wants an automobile.. or Netflix or a 600$ Ivanka pair of shoes.. but it just won't work. All of us on the planet cannot belong to a country club ot take our Tiger Woods clubs with us if we have to migrate. <br /><br />Nothing good happens if you try to eliminate the key ingredients to support life. Greed & Ignorance are inedible, as is a cel phone or a Nintendo game. Remove the arable soil and one cannot grow corn. pollute the water & there aint no fish to eat. Remove the trees and what to breathe? Screw with the sunlight somehow, and its all over Rover.. Maybe it will all collapse at once.. maybe there will be vast & shocking scourges.. like Ebola or some sort of little beetle will toxify all or part of us ? There seems no method to the madness here in North America. In the USA with almost 1 in 5 are evangelicals.. and how many of them are focused on denying LGBT from using public washrooms ! Do we really believe Judge Kavanaugh gives a fig re blacks being denied their voting rights? Andrew Scheer is still whining for Energy East to be brought back from the dead.. and young Justin is basking in LNG investment about to smoke Kitimat and northeast BC with a new natural gss pipeline ! Trump wants coal ! Offshore drilling too.<br /><br />Unless we learn to control and direct political parties and politicians we are just going to get their road map to The Rapture & endless floods of environmental migrants from the entire planet.. and they will ultimately all be headed here.. to Canada. (back to the neccessities to support life ! And we got most of them except Common Sense)<br /><br /> the salamanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853337802990122289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-9785215779711221182018-09-30T18:34:26.294-07:002018-09-30T18:34:26.294-07:00It is a bit depressing when you realize that apply...It is a bit depressing when you realize that applying your society's best actions towards a problem will not make the problem actually "better" in an absolute sense, just a little less worse than it would otherwise be.<br /><br />People don't like to tackle problems on that basis. But honesty matters.<br /><br />We are not going to stop global climate change. It is analogous to Donald Rumsfeld convincing George Bush that liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein via a war would actually improve the lot of that country, because Saddam (in truth) was making that country worse off, year by year.<br /><br />We should try to manage climate change aiming for the least worse outcome objectively achievable.<br /><br />crfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726414637021391906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-80066663742777867732018-09-30T17:15:54.314-07:002018-09-30T17:15:54.314-07:00After 73 years of a win/loss record of 3/17, with ...After 73 years of a win/loss record of 3/17, with 28 unwinnable wars still "on the books", and growing, with a tapped out Military, it's starting to dawn on some "centerist" American's that Military Might ain't all it's cracked up to be.<br /><br />After 24 years of the ReThug's declaring a Civil War on the Constitution, Courts and Governance, it's started to dawn on some Democrats that they are engaged in a life or death Cold Civil War with the ReThugs.<br /><br />The Ususal Suspects have not yet come to the realization that you can't wait out Global Warming in a Gated Community or fly away ftom it with a quick trip to Innsbruck.Jay Farquharsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03335226520940843630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-58714377624386246442018-09-30T16:35:28.389-07:002018-09-30T16:35:28.389-07:00Like a rainy day in summer, On a long weekend. Like a rainy day in summer, On a long weekend. John's Aghastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-87377263433750077602018-09-30T13:50:42.034-07:002018-09-30T13:50:42.034-07:00It's pretty depessing, Mound. Period.It's pretty depessing, Mound. Period.Owen Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06464860078574618579noreply@blogger.com