tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post8156852092842706649..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: The Curious Case of Ruby DhallaThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-17939691977842493772010-04-15T08:56:39.602-07:002010-04-15T08:56:39.602-07:00I have no idea Anon. This suggests to me that the...I have no idea Anon. This suggests to me that the whole thing was driven by the Tories and simply died on the vine when they lost interest. Call it a "drive by sliming."The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-29878144874985316122010-04-15T08:52:14.632-07:002010-04-15T08:52:14.632-07:00I have not heard or read anything about the outcom...I have not heard or read anything about the outcome of this inquiry or case. <br />Has the matter resolved? What was/is the outcome?<br />Did the lawyers bring a motion for no media coverage? Can they do that when such public figure is involved?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-37813491559556239622009-05-12T07:13:00.000-07:002009-05-12T07:13:00.000-07:00Yes OEM, that does sound as though Kenney is explo...Yes OEM, that does sound as though Kenney is exploiting this situation and his office for partisan political advantage but that, as they say, is how he rolls.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-39225751769986759592009-05-12T02:49:00.000-07:002009-05-12T02:49:00.000-07:00As one commentor said: when was the last time any ...As one commentor said: when was the last time any of us got to meet with a cabinet minister?<br />2 nannies get right in there.Or did he visit them?Oemissionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15052778663890940687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-39538403301367205092009-05-12T02:45:00.000-07:002009-05-12T02:45:00.000-07:002 commentors at the National Post, are surprised h...2 commentors at the National Post, are surprised hoe wuickly the ministry has responded. Usually it takes a couple of years for due process.<br />As for what do the nannies get: possibly alot.Oemissionshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15052778663890940687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-56101747078440341742009-05-11T09:40:00.000-07:002009-05-11T09:40:00.000-07:00Well, anon, I certainly hope we get to the bottom ...Well, anon, I certainly hope we get to the bottom of this one way or the other. If the accusations are valid Ms. Dhalla's political career is certainly washed up.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-22040171556117347542009-05-11T09:30:00.000-07:002009-05-11T09:30:00.000-07:00As I've said before, Ms. Dhalla is doing herself n...<I>As I've said before, Ms. Dhalla is doing herself no favours by seeking to defend herself in the media. If the accusations are indeed groundless there is a much better forum for her to use. </I>You are right as far as you go.<br /><br />And actually her defense if the accusations are groundless would be easy even in the media. Remember her lawyer waving around what he said were the "we have proof" documents.<br /><br />It is her public reputation at stake. This isn't a court of law, so there is no reason to hold back the supposed proof for later.<br /><br />All she had to do is provide the proof, and the story ends. In fact, it would boomerang on the perpetrators.<br /><br />That is not what Dhalla did. What she IS doing is the only strategy available for a cover-up.<br /><br />We don't know that it is a cover-up yet. But so far what we do know is consistent with it being a cover-up. And there isn't a shred of evidence consistent with her claims that there is NO basis to the accusations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-27656492911617033762009-05-11T09:03:00.000-07:002009-05-11T09:03:00.000-07:00You are probably right that the truth will come ou...You are probably right that the truth will come out soon enough.<br /><br />But its isn't just the nannies accusing Dhalla. There is the NGO [Intercede?] director who phoned Dhalla on their behalf a year ago.<br /><br />So if the Conservatives are behind this, they had to have set it up before that. And then they sat on it instead of using it in Brampton during the election- in a seat they want badly?<br /><br />That plus the improbability that all three of these women's stories would hold up for all this time- on promises they are getting a payoff... that they all beleive, and are knowledgable enough about how this all works that they never deviate from the script????<br /><br />Its more than improbable.<br /><br />I wouldn't for a minute put it past the Cons and Kenney to have stepped in to keep this alive. But even that would have serious and obvious political dangers. These people aren't stupid... and what's the likelihood that if they did their involvement never comes out in testimony?<br /><br />Still- they would ceratinly consider it, and they <I>might</I> be reckless enough to do it.<br /><br />But that they concocted the whole thing a year ago and sat on it just defies the odds [let alone the even greater likelihood of such a total fabrication coming out and the attendent backfire damage]... so if the Conservatives are involved directly with the nannies, Dhalla had to have given them the material.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-7256850695478587632009-05-11T07:58:00.000-07:002009-05-11T07:58:00.000-07:00"Jason Kenney says he's not behind this b..."Jason Kenney says he's not behind this but his assurances are hardly convincing. I think someone is behind this and, as I mentioned, immigration is almost certainly a priority for these women."<br /><br />Also interesting is that Kenney's office came out with a statement on this within minutes of the allegations being made public. Some other Con did too. Can't remember who. There is no way they did not have prior knowledge.<br /><br />With Kenney being Immigration Minister & the fear that nannies, from other countries in general, have of not getting immigration status this looks somewhat suspicious. He could have guaranteed them status if they came forward with these allegations - true or not. Just a thought.<br /><br />IF the allegations do end up being proven in Court, not crucifixation via media, then Dhalla should resign her position as MP & of course pay all penalties as set down by the Courts.<br /><br />I'm not defending Ruby Dhalla. It's all allegations at this point & apparently there have still been no legal filings as of this time. I just dislike automatic presumptions of guilt by those on a Liberal bashing meme.penlanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07830912393649649485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-68720264167971889262009-05-11T07:17:00.000-07:002009-05-11T07:17:00.000-07:00This case is literally steeped in assumptions - fr...This case is literally steeped in assumptions - from both sides. As I've said before, Ms. Dhalla is doing herself no favours by seeking to defend herself in the media. If the accusations are indeed groundless there is a much better forum for her to use. If, however, the accusations are true, the LPC would be well off without her.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-35010318415707032542009-05-11T07:01:00.000-07:002009-05-11T07:01:00.000-07:00It's the lynch mob mentality about the so-called n...It's the lynch mob mentality about the so-called nannygate that bothers me the most. The assumption seems to be that because nanny/caregivers are treated badly by some employers therefore it follows automatically that anytime a nanny/caregiver makes a claim it must be true. Ironically, for all the concern about power imbalances one gets created the moment anything Dhalla does or says is discounted just because she's a 'powerful' person. <br />Having seen lynch mob mentality in action has made me a true defender of the tenet of 'innocent until proven guilty'. Patience and careful thought seems to be trampled these days by news cycles.clshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17756339720875290527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-38199855062624198352009-05-11T05:02:00.000-07:002009-05-11T05:02:00.000-07:00Well said. It coalesces a lot of the thoughts I ha...Well said. It coalesces a lot of the thoughts I had swirling around about this mess. The whole thing smells like something Rove and The Republicans cooked up down south.<br /><br />If the Liberals are able to expose the Conservatives as having cooked this up as a smear it might discourage them from doing this again.Constant Vigilancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839753866104400007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-53971013207937689542009-05-11T04:10:00.000-07:002009-05-11T04:10:00.000-07:00CWTF, this isn't about 'spinning' anything. It's ...CWTF, this isn't about 'spinning' anything. It's about getting to the bottom of a situation that smells of political manipulation. I gave clear reasons why I don't believe Phillipino nannies would come forward, together, with these sort of allegations on their own. If these women - and Dhalla - are being gamed then we need to find out who lies behind this.<br /><br />I just don't see these women sticking their necks out unless they stood to gain something worth the risks.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-48513020609621454712009-05-11T03:35:00.000-07:002009-05-11T03:35:00.000-07:00Mound, I think you have a good point here. What a ...Mound, I think you have a good point here. What a blind man wants? Eyesight. I think immigration for these nannies is lifetime achievement and they may be willing to do anything for it. No disparaging of nannies from Philippine but difficulty to get immigration and desperate challenge requires desperate action. That is my take on it.LeDarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12526776746689708239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-74432934026858589432009-05-11T03:23:00.000-07:002009-05-11T03:23:00.000-07:00Jason Kenney says he's not behind this but his ass...<I>Jason Kenney says he's not behind this but his assurances are hardly convincing.</I>Almost as bad as Ruby's assurances, I'd say...<br /><br />But I'm sure that those "top guns" that you want hired will able to spin this in the Liberals favour...<br /><br />Now, the agency that called on behalf of one of those nannies.. well that's another story...<br /><br /><br />And of course, there was the "presser" that Ms Dhalla had with her lawyer - quite the curious affair - attacking the press, not answering questions all in the hopes of clearing your name...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-68550750561310765742009-05-10T22:36:00.000-07:002009-05-10T22:36:00.000-07:00Anon 9:17, what a curious position. You're saying...Anon 9:17, what a curious position. You're saying that because someone (presumably you) has been treated even worse than Ms. Dhalla, she ought to be held in contempt.<br /><br />And Anon 10:08, don't be so simple.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-42462773516965324722009-05-10T22:08:00.000-07:002009-05-10T22:08:00.000-07:00But wait...Ruby is not involved so says her lawyer...But wait...Ruby is not involved so says her lawyer. Apparently this is NOT about Ruby. It's about her brother and her mother. And of course I guess the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.If Dhalla's lawyers come on too strong, she's sunk and judging from the press conference he is definitely going to come on too strong. She's sunk, even though it's not about HER.<br />The exploitation of all involved is too salacious for words. Meantime McGuinty is teflon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-7503146973695096672009-05-10T21:17:00.000-07:002009-05-10T21:17:00.000-07:00“Ruby Dhalla strikes back at allegations”
Wow! It...“Ruby Dhalla strikes back at allegations” <br />Wow! It must be nice to know what you are charged with when you have to defend yourself. The allegation suggests that the complaint against her occurred within a specific period of time. She even knows what the allegations are when she has to defend herself. <br />In the Ontario College of Teachers discipline hearing which has destroyed the lives of citizens, an organization sanctioned by the liberal government including the Minister of Education and supported by teachers Union, doesn’t even have to provide any specifics of any allegation. A teacher can be accused of unethical conduct without even knowing what they supposedly did. The so-called offence could have even occurred over a period of years. At least Dhalla can have some fighting chance to defend herself. A teacher in the province can be accused of unprofessional conduct and not even know what the charged is. The Liberals are being absolutely two faced about this and even speaking out the side of their mouth… Shame on all of them <br />For more details…<br />Canadians for Accountability: http://www.canadians4accountability.org/news/main-e.html#jb<br />Religious Position: http://tomorrowstrust.ca/?p=4615 <br />CTV Report of Sex Offenders: <br />http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20061101/whistleblower_teachers_061115/20061115?hub=CanadaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com