tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post8735410259230977010..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: It's Time to Re-Think NATOThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-81898174805670045152018-04-11T07:32:03.092-07:002018-04-11T07:32:03.092-07:00Anon, you want to be an apologist for alt.right ga...Anon, you want to be an apologist for alt.right garbage take it somewhere else. I don't tolerate that nonsense or those who rally to defend it. You're out.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-89860808719154369972018-04-11T05:12:26.593-07:002018-04-11T05:12:26.593-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-63073349797075392002018-04-10T08:47:25.880-07:002018-04-10T08:47:25.880-07:00That's obviously true, Chris, but Turkey's...<br />That's obviously true, Chris, but Turkey's participation was markedly different when the nation was constitutionally secular, prior to Erdogan's authoritarian takeover. It's this sea change that causes me to see New Turkey versus Old Turkey as two distinct entities.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-69524839845123318362018-04-10T08:15:19.636-07:002018-04-10T08:15:19.636-07:00Turkey has been a member of NATO for a long time.Turkey has been a member of NATO for a long time.crfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726414637021391906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-1582782669988502832018-04-10T08:01:05.270-07:002018-04-10T08:01:05.270-07:00I agree the time to dissolve NATO was after the co...I agree the time to dissolve NATO was after the collapse of the USSR. NATO’s role during the Cold War was to counter the Warsaw Pact nations. However, to dissolve itself would have meant that hundreds, thousands? of good paying jobs would be dissolved too. Well, no rational thinking bureaucratic empire is going to do that so they simply repurposed themselves, invited in former WP nations in and voila, they are good for another century. Tensions are then ramped against Russia just like in the good old days. Mission Accomplished. Military-Industrial complex running on all cylinders as required. MacAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-28785157407034490022018-04-10T00:37:24.250-07:002018-04-10T00:37:24.250-07:00You gotta hand it to The Atlantic and its inside-t...You gotta hand it to The Atlantic and its inside-the-Beltway myopia saying that the concept of NATO's "membership composed of human rights-respecting democracies" MAY be falling apart when that ship sailed for good back in 2003. No organization whose membership bombs, invades and destroys other nations that are no threat to it while pledging total support to another power that does the same thing effectively under its protection has any business lecturing ANYONE regarding human rights. <br /><br />No doubt Putin is an authoritarian thug, but his crimes pale in comparison to those of the US and UK in particular. And just yesterday we had the laughable spectacle of Israel bombing Syria in retaliation for a supposed chemical attack on civilians which, even if the story is accurate, was no less heinous that what the Israelis themselves are currently doing to civilians in Gaza.<br /><br />NATO should have been dissolved in 1991 when its reason for being evaporated. But like any governmental and especially military organization ever created and allowed to grow unchecked, it became an out of control monster far more dangerous to humanity than even the original threat it was designed to combat. Its day of reckoning is coming when the American empire finally collapses under its own weight--I just hope humanity can survive it.Karl Kolchaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-78118453002127993522018-04-09T22:31:14.422-07:002018-04-09T22:31:14.422-07:00Anon, when I see someone make ridiculously declari...Anon, when I see someone make ridiculously declaritive pronouncements, one atop the other, about "there's nothing wrong" - with anything - I know that person is a fucking bigot. Absolutism is the native language of bigotry and fascism. There was a time we had to kill people who thought just like that. My daddy had to take care of a few all by himself. His men took care of a lot more. So fuck off you fascist piece of shit.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-8698827860207587972018-04-09T19:00:07.710-07:002018-04-09T19:00:07.710-07:00There is nothing wrong with sending back economic ...There is nothing wrong with sending back economic migrants so they can work hard on improving living standards in their own home communities (instead trying to improve only his/her in the West).<br /><br />There is nothing wrong with sending back refugees, men of military age, so they can fight themselves for the future of their respective countries (instead sending our troops to do the bloody job); a thought expressed by the President of a Czech Republic, Miloš Zeman.<br /><br />There is nothing wrong with punishing the use of a phrase “Polish death camps”, as those were Nazi death camps operated and staffed by Germans on an occupied Polish soil.<br /><br />And, finally, there is nothing wrong with preserving one’s own cultural heritage, customs and traditions in a home country.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-58687704444345753972018-04-09T12:35:37.350-07:002018-04-09T12:35:37.350-07:00Silly me, I forgot Blair. A reactionary even thoug...Silly me, I forgot Blair. A reactionary even though he didn't admit to Tory, he was responsible for more deaths than Putin has been. <br /><br />Nice friends we have in Nato; Uk, USA, Turkey et al. And so are one of the good guys ?rumleyfipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03346146988416679423noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-70440244435657791942018-04-09T11:56:00.570-07:002018-04-09T11:56:00.570-07:00You left out the poisonous British Tories whose au...You left out the poisonous British Tories whose authoritarian bent has stirred the trouble pot since Thatcher first attacked.rumleyfipshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03346146988416679423noreply@blogger.com