tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post926328015166336765..comments2024-03-22T05:20:44.167-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: It's Not Terrorism in TrumpLand If the Bomber Is a White GuyThe Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-16770489629463843242017-10-12T17:53:02.188-07:002017-10-12T17:53:02.188-07:00
Given that a core tenet of criminal law is that a...<br />Given that a core tenet of criminal law is that a person shall be deemed to intend (mens rea) the logical and foreseeable consequences of his acts (actus reus) it may indeed be appropriate to look at whether these individuals should be held culpable for the damage and loss they occasion.<br /><br />This dovetails with the emerging legal theory that climate change denial/obfuscation to deter remedial action and that thereby triggers death, injury and loss ought to be considered a crime against humanity.<br /><br />I read an item, yesterday I believe, that said the debate over climate change should be limited to direct impacts suffered by Americans within the United States. As greenhouse gases are generally emitted into the atmosphere to be carried off on the prevailing winds, no American emitter could be held to account for them. And excluded from consideration would be the historical impacts now coming to roost in the Third World triggering enormous suffering, including death and dislocation. No causal link would be recognized, hence no legal liability.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-39905251930730507042017-10-12T17:02:03.517-07:002017-10-12T17:02:03.517-07:00Absolutely. Yet it's beyond the pale to call t...Absolutely. Yet it's beyond the pale to call them out and suggest they're responsible for radicalizing the American population, let alone to suggest the broadcasts be shut down and those responsible jailed. The same is not true for propaganda aimed at radicalizing Muslims. <br /><br />It reminds me of <a href="http://www.rwandanstories.org/genocide/hate_radio.html" rel="nofollow">Radio-Television Libre des Mille Collines</a>: <br /><br /><i>Its stated aim was “to create harmonious development in Rwandese society” but nothing could have been further from the truth. It was set up and financed by Hutu extremists to prepare the people of Rwanda for genocide by demonising the Tutsi and encouraging hate and violence.<br /><br />Some people - including the Belgian ambassador and staff of several aid agencies - recognised the danger and asked for international help in shutting down the broadcasts, but it was impossible to persuade western diplomats to take it seriously. They dismissed the station as a joke.<br /><br />David Rawson, the US ambassador, said that its euphemisms were open to interpretation. The US, he said, believed in freedom of speech.</i><br /><br />Sounds familiar? Well, the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda found three of the station's leaders guilty of genocide, incitement to genocide and crimes against humanity. They received 30-year sentences. Freedom of speech has always come with limits - that's why you can be charged with criminal libel, inciting riots, and so on. It may be time we looked more closely at the dissemination of lies designed to rile people up.<br /><br />Cap<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-36696164410312741972017-10-12T12:43:53.512-07:002017-10-12T12:43:53.512-07:00That's a too-often overlooked point, Cap. A la...<br />That's a too-often overlooked point, Cap. A large segment of the American population are being radicalized and in the manner you suggest. From Alex Jones to Limbaugh to Hannity, there's an eager audience for the deception and manipulation being dished out to them. And these high priests of the dark arts are getting rich off it.The Mound of Soundhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-45839451343484497422017-10-12T12:18:25.506-07:002017-10-12T12:18:25.506-07:00If this is ever properly investigated, I expect we...If this is ever properly investigated, I expect we'll hear that Mr. Estes was radicalized by a steady diet of Fox, hate radio and conspiracy websites. We'll find out that he learned bomb-making courtesy the US military or one of the US's many poorly regulated white-supremacist militias. And we'll be shocked to hear he has a history of spousal abuse. In short, just another white, male, right-wing nutjob who thinks Trump isn't going far enough, fast enough.<br /><br />CapAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com