tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post97599486205772760..comments2024-03-18T21:55:56.412-07:00Comments on The Disaffected Lib: So, Like, Where Do You Find Your Truth?The Mound of Soundhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09023839743772372922noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-30418288472247403992019-05-14T00:18:11.129-07:002019-05-14T00:18:11.129-07:00I don't think most ideologies can really be ch...I don't think most ideologies can really be characterized as "true" or "false". It's more a matter of what values and interests they serve. So neoliberalism, for instance, is designed to give as much money to the few at the top of it as possible, as quickly as possible, discounting the future very strongly. If you're one of those few and you're willing to discount the future a lot, it's a valid (if decidedly immoral) ideology. Where the falsity comes in is the point where those few try to convince everyone else that neoliberalism is in their interests too, which it most definitely is not.<br />Even fascism--if you happen to be a bloodthirsty nihilistic son of a bitch who loves having people in your power to stomp on sadistically as much as you love groveling to those who have power over you, then fascism is the ideology which will make you the happiest. It is frightening how many people seem to answer to that description when the chips are down.<br /><br />Some ideologies might be considered false in the sense that not only the people who believe in them, but even their core theorists, seem to be flat wrong about the ideology's implications if put into practice. I consider libertarianism to be like that--its proponents have an attachment to a certain approach to life and so tell themselves that everything would be just lovely if that approach were universal, but it totally wouldn't work the way they think it would. Most libertarians would probably be horrified with what actually happened when they instituted libertarianism. They're thinking peaceful utopia maximizing productivity, I'm thinking Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome.<br /><br />Then you get into various strands of socialism, social anarchism, anarcho-syndicalism and whatnot. The ethic they all have in common is the desire to benefit the many, not the few (in this day and age, that forces them to be environmentalist, because you can't benefit the majority on a destroyed planet). Most of the variants are likely to be less than 100% successful at this if brought to reality. Many a slip and all that. But at least they're aiming in a good direction.<br /><br />Whichever one you back, I don't see a case for claiming they're all somehow the same.Purple library guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01930984683714519212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-31077971754679626392019-05-13T08:09:51.872-07:002019-05-13T08:09:51.872-07:00I think Mound that you went to the deep end of the...I think Mound that you went to the deep end of the semantics pool.<br />For starters, there is no such thing as "belief based truth."<br />Secondly, knowledge is not a product of belief and truth.<br />Thirdly, do not confuse personal perception with the objective truth which is based on observable and verifiable facts.<br />According to the oracle called JT: "A man experiences an interaction as benign or not inappropriate and a woman, particularly in a professional context, can experience it differently," but the fact is that he touched/groped that woman.<br />Fourthly, a "faith-based response" has nothing to do with the facts that, together, Gore & Suzuki own 5+ properties and have 9 children. The fact is that having children, save for having the lifestyle of an oligarch or sheikh, is the most destructive thing one can do for the environment.<br />Fifthly, <i>I think</i> that the above mentioned village idiot JT, while being an idiot, is well aware that time is running out of current globalist based continuous growth economic model, but he wants to have a second/third/ etc. term in the office first.<br />Finally, we are in agreement that "we need solid, fact-based leadership." I am not sure though that most people would like to know/care about certain facts and their consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32931256.post-4004374591898916502019-05-13T03:04:59.664-07:002019-05-13T03:04:59.664-07:00.. count me among the agnostic adult cynics.. who ..... count me among the agnostic adult cynics.. who once were kind of stuffed into the Latin memorizing altar boy ranks of the vaunted Catholic Church - I am comfortably now among those who believe fiction is far stranger than fact.. (though not always...)<br /><br />Thus.. I do not seek altruism in a brothel or a strip club.. though I likely would find naked truth there.. very... - and basic economics and sound business ethic at work. Fundamental supply & demand 24/7 & alcohol<br /><br />Turning my cheek(s) from that environment, I could seek same within the welcoming portals of OUR major centers of 'situational ethics' - the tawdry political parties - which are really just old boys clubs where different levels of prostitution are freely supplied - at a cost.. and truth and reality or altruism are scarce commodities within those grungy walls<br /><br />Looking to the world of high finance & stock markets.. I see fiction & fantasy on display.. and greed - the grifting is constant. <br /><br />----------<br /><br />However.. I always find TRUTH in the natural world.. or the wonder of a tiny child. A raindrop amazes me, or a tiny toad. An open field teaches me history, as will a stone fence.. or a swirling wind dancing the leaves of a tree. Nature is Truth - to me and so is a piano note or an old woman humming to her grandchild. I love to touch a bumblebee.. do I touch money the same amazed way ? Haha.. that is to laugh, of course not.. Would I find these truths or wonder in the convoluted cardboard of MainMedia - NO.. Yet I find truth in the simple clean ethics, questions and concerns of most Indy Media that I trust<br /><br />That graphic you included really says it for me. I will read the words of a great Canadian like David Schindler or Michael Harris several times.. savoring the specialness & I give not a fluck whether Kanye West or Drake has purchased a Boeing 747 or a spaceship. Truth and Reality slap me in the head & sustain me.. tell me to be REAL.. the rest is Noise, flavor of the day.. damn but it seems so obviousthe salamanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06853337802990122289noreply@blogger.com