Friday, August 03, 2007

Nuke the Mosques?

Repuglican presidential candidates want to appear tough on terrorism and Colorado Representative Tom Tancredo is no exception.

Tancredo's secret for deterring terrorism - bomb Muslim holy sites. Seriously, that's what he said he thinks would work. His advisor, Bay Buchanan, wife of Pat, said her guy is open minded and willing to consider other options.

“This shows that we mean business,” Buchanan said. “There’s no more effective deterrent than that.”

Well, if you're looking for business, an airstrike on Mecca should get you all the business you can handle. A State Department spokesman called Tancredo's statements "reprehensible" and "absolutely crazy"


Anonymous said...

The the U.S. media is so busy trying to marginalize a honest, mostly harmless if not slighty wacky libertarian Paul and let a guy willing to preemptively nuke Mecca get a free ride, yikes!

It would not surprise me however if there is not already such plans in a file cabinet somewhere next to the one on invading Alberta and releasing a plague in Asia. America is headed for a fall and what they might do in their death throws scares the hell out of me.
Romey, "double gitmo"
Most of the others believe in preemtive nukes

Dems are not much better, all pro war and only wanting a pull out to capitalize on public sentiment, not idealism.

If there was ever an example to show democracy is inheirantly flawed the current U.S. situation certainly would fit the bill.

The Mound of Sound said...

I hear you on that one Green. How they can let raving nutbars even participate in their leadership races astounds me. After all, they're only running to become Fuhrer of the Frei Verlt. That's what happens when the hillbillies have all the guns.

Anonymous said...

Please explain why this is a bad idea? I am serious, what is wrong with bombing Islamic holy sites?

The Mound of Sound said...

If you're serious you're asking me to explain logic to a lunatic. Keep asking yourself that question and then begin reading and learning enough that you will realize the answer.

Anonymous said...

That is a pretty weak arguement.

I'll ask just once more and then asume you have no real arguement against bombing Islamic holy sites.

Why is this a bad idea?

Red Tory said...

Tom of Dimland

The Mound of Sound said...

Terrific post RT. I hope that "Anon" follows your link. What makes these people try to transform stupidity into a cult?

However, just in case, how would Anon like it if innocent Muslims retaliated against Christian and Jewish holy sites to punish innocent Christians and Jews for the acts of the nutbar fringe from their own ranks?

As that southern comedian said, "You can't fix stupid."

Anonymous said...

Enna says....After WWII many Nazi hiearchy escaped to the Vatican and were aided in their escapes to America, Canada and South America. Of course the fact that America wanted access to some of these people in order to help fight Communism since it was a threat to Christianity says enormous amounts about how religion is used. "For much of the Catholic Church... W.W.II had been an interlude in a deeper and more important struggle against 'atheistic communism' that had been raging for decades" Christopher Simpson, "Blowback: America's Recruitment of Nazi's and its Effects on the Cold War", New York: Collier Books, 1988, page 177. Such men as Ante Pavelic.. helped time and time again. Americans have first hand knowledge as to how it worked and works. Are they suspicious or know that Mosques are being used to harbour crimminals? Of course they do. It isn't far-fetched to think that other people such as Tancredo are of the same mind in America. North American Christains especially, think they have the true and only answer to the correct way to ethereal notion at best. Roman Catholics think they are the ethereal. The fact that religious belief systems around the world do protect known fugitives, killers and thieves, is a reason it is not difficult to understand that kind of thinking by Tancredo. But what a ludicrous notion to think that bombing Moques are going to end the war or that Muslims wouldn't find some other way to hide whomever. This is such an obtuse whim it boggles the mind how a person could even think such an act would end a religious or economic war. "Stupid is as Stupid does."

Red Tory said...

MoS — Glad you enjoyed it.

It’s astounding to me that someone this batshit crazy is running for the president and that he isn’t simply laughed off the stage. Even more frightening is the fact that there are some (a small, albeit noisy minority) who support such dangerous thinking without it seems any appreciation whatsoever for the potentially horrific consequences of what they’re advocating.

The Mound of Sound said...

RT, what troubles me most about this isn't Tancredo but the fact that so many in the running aren't all that much better. The "mainstream" Repugs - Guiliani, Romney and Thompson - believe that what America and the world needs now is just more of the Bush foreign policy. How so many can so fervently embrace such a demonstrably failed addiction to inept military force utterly astounds me. Iraq is steadily slipping through their fingers and they believe that a slight decline in the level of American casualties is proof of victory.

This is grocery-store tabloid level intellect. The bridge that collapsed in Minneapolis is a metaphor for what Bush has wrought in his own country. It's going to take real vision and selflessness to pull America out of this nosedive and I cannot detect any trace of that quality on either side's candidates.

Perhaps that is simply a reflection of the reality that the American public aren't ready yet and will punish any pol who dares speak truth to them. In that case, the cost of victory in 2008 may be the willingness to inherit the godawful Bush Doctrine.

The American people need to realize it's the foreign policy itself, not merely its haphazard implementation by Bush/Cheney, that has failed them. Until they do and until they have a genuine leader courageous enough to take them in a genuinely different direction we'll all be living with re-runs and predictable failures.

Within this context, NATO does indeed morph from a band of allies into America's Foreign Legion. This is what will actually undo the alliance, not Afghanistan. NATO needs to tell Washington that we're leaving and taking the keys. Friends don't let friends drive drunk, eh?